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    Article: Twins Minor League Report (5/4): Ryan Eades' Dominant Day


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    Do Eades and Slegers have a chance to move up to FTM this years since they were college pitchers?

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    Brandon Peterson, the Minnesota native, has been promoted from Cedar Rapids to Ft. Myers.

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    Alex Meyer had a rough outing, so maybe the book is out on his new changeup. He went just 4.2 innings, giving up four runs, five hits, three walks and five strike outs.

    And that's why you don't call up a guy after two starts, a guy who is refining a brand-new pitch.

    Meyer will get it sorted but he needs to do it in the minor leagues.

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    I know I am the 'excuses' guy, but when reviewing Meyers' start, keep in mind that he was pitching with an 8 run lead in the 3rd and a 10 run lead in the 4th. Who knows… maybe he ONLY threw his changeup!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex View Post
    I know I am the 'excuses' guy, but when reviewing Meyers' start, keep in mind that he was pitching with an 8 run lead in the 3rd and a 10 run lead in the 4th. Who knows… maybe he ONLY threw his changeup!
    Jack Morris always got knocked for pitching to the scoreline. And he should be in the hall of fame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdrupp09 View Post
    Jack Morris always got knocked for pitching to the scoreline. And he should be in the hall of fame.
    Except that Morris didn't pitch to the scoreboard. That is a myth that has been shot down multiple times.

    To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a pitcher who pitches to the scoreboard, at least not enough to make a discernible dent in his career line.

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    I give Eades credit for battling when he really didn't have his best stuff. He was working behind in the count a lot.

    But the best Kernels pitcher of the day was Landa. Faced the minimum 9 batters in 3 innings (an infield single was erased by a DP) and Peoria had no answer for him. He's been on fire the last week or so out of the bullpen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post

    And that's why you don't call up a guy after two starts, a guy who is refining a brand-new pitch.

    Meyer will get it sorted but he needs to do it in the minor leagues.
    Absolutely correct... Those two starts SHOULD get people excited about what Meyer can be, but there's still work to do to get him to what he can become!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex View Post
    I know I am the 'excuses' guy, but when reviewing Meyers' start, keep in mind that he was pitching with an 8 run lead in the 3rd and a 10 run lead in the 4th. Who knows… maybe he ONLY threw his changeup!
    I don't know if pitching to the scoreboard is encouraged. But working on pitches is, and he might have been throwing it more than he normally would to refine the feel for it. Given all the publicity about it, hitters might have been sitting on it. Still, the fact that he didn't fare well suggests that the pitch needs more refinement, and, as Brock said, that should be done in AAA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRex View Post
    I know I am the 'excuses' guy, but when reviewing Meyers' start, keep in mind that he was pitching with an 8 run lead in the 3rd and a 10 run lead in the 4th. Who knows… maybe he ONLY threw his changeup!
    Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
    I don't know if pitching to the scoreboard is encouraged. But working on pitches is, and he might have been throwing it more than he normally would to refine the feel for it. Given all the publicity about it, hitters might have been sitting on it. Still, the fact that he didn't fare well suggests that the pitch needs more refinement, and, as Brock said, that should be done in AAA.

    Eric Rasmussen on Meyer's changeup:

    “We always talk about the changeup being like rabbits — they multiply,” Rasmussen said. “You throw 15 in a game, it seems like a lot more. It’s not like you have to throw it a lot. It sure seems to have a lot of effect. If you have the ability to throw three pitches over, hitters can’t eliminate something.”
    I sure would like to see the PitchF/X on this outing......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock Beauchamp View Post
    Except that Morris didn't pitch to the scoreboard. That is a myth that has been shot down multiple times.

    To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a pitcher who pitches to the scoreboard, at least not enough to make a discernible dent in his career line.
    Right, I wasn't intending to say that he did it, I am just saying that he got knocked for it and look at the kind of pitcher that he was.

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    I do recall there were times Frank Viola threw the change 10-12 times in a row. And of course it was pretty much Brad Radke's career pitch. Changeup, and changierup.

    Meyer does not need to do that.
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    I was at the Meyer's start yesterday. He was very sharp for the first three innings, but seemed to lose touch in the 4th. The off speed stuff showed flashes of being dominant but was a bit inconsistent. His fastball sat 94-96 for the first three innings. He seemed to take a bit off in the 4th to regain a bit of control. He did touch 97 in the fifth though.

    He also had to sit a long time in between innings as the Wings had long scoring rallies in the first and second.

    One thing to know about yesterday was that it was around 55 with a 20-30 MPH wind blowing straight out all game. Everything was carrying a lot further than it first looked off the bat. I think that it would have been hard to stay loose yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinsfan46 View Post
    I was at the Meyer's start yesterday. He was very sharp for the first three innings, but seemed to lose touch in the 4th. The off speed stuff showed flashes of being dominant but was a bit inconsistent. His fastball sat 94-96 for the first three innings. He seemed to take a bit off in the 4th to regain a bit of control. He did touch 97 in the fifth though.

    He also had to sit a long time in between innings as the Wings had long scoring rallies in the first and second.

    One thing to know about yesterday was that it was around 55 with a 20-30 MPH wind blowing straight out all game. Everything was carrying a lot further than it first looked off the bat. I think that it would have been hard to stay loose yesterday.
    Thanks Twinsfan46! Your eyewitness account is much appreciated and adds context to the dry stats. Would you say the wind was the deciding factor in the home run that Meyer surrendered?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKGuy View Post
    Do Eades and Slegers have a chance to move up to FTM this years since they were college pitchers?
    To answer your question. Yes. I'd say a good one... Part of this is having guys like Gonsalves and Thorpe sitting in EST and certainly deserving a shot in CR. Part is that they are college guys and if they dominate at a level where they are expected to dominate, they'll move up. Both have done that well, and I'd imagine that if they continue through May, they will be in the first wave called up in June.

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    Don't look now, but Levi Michael's batting line is almost as good as Jorge Polanco. Would we think differently of Michael if he had gone to Betsy out of college and played well instead of jumping all the way to Ft Myers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    Thanks Twinsfan46! Your eyewitness account is much appreciated and adds context to the dry stats. Would you say the wind was the deciding factor in the home run that Meyer surrendered?
    That homerun was hit off the scoreboard in right, but it seemed to take off once it got into the jetstream. I think the ball may have had a chance without the wind but it wouldn't have been a no doubter. Arcia and Farris seemed to think that they had a chance and chased it back to wall. Based on their reaction I think it may have stayed in the yard on a calm day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJL44 View Post
    Don't look now, but Levi Michael's batting line is almost as good as Jorge Polanco. Would we think differently of Michael if he had gone to Betsy out of college and played well instead of jumping all the way to Ft Myers?

    Isn't Polanco two years younger, at the same level? I'm not saying Michael can't be successful some day, but don't you think that is part of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike wants wins View Post
    Isn't Polanco two years younger, at the same level? I'm not saying Michael can't be successful some day, but don't you think that is part of it?
    Levi is just getting comfortable, he barely has 1000 PA at A+.
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