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    I like that. Give Santana a shot a center, why not? I feel Hicks needs to stay down for the rest of the season. They can give him another look next spring.

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    Exactly!

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    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who sees it that way.

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    In the Twins' system, they have Hicks and Fuld. Currently Fuld is on the concussion DL and Hicks is hitting a buck-seventy. If he can play a non-embarrassing center field, I would play him there on Tuesday.

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    Didn't we see what can happen when you put a career middle infielder in the outfield in a big league game just the other day?

    I've heard a lot of bad ideas on this forum but Santana in center is probably the worst one yet.

    Why would anyone want to screw with a kid's head like that? What possible good could come from such insane mismanagement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear333 View Post
    I feel Hicks needs to stay down for the rest of the season. They can give him another look next spring.
    I'd put even money on you saying the exact same thing about Santana by June. Let's not get ahead of ourselves over 30 plate appearances.

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    He and Nunez need to stay for good. Trade Florimon

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    When Fuld comes off the DL, maybe you option Hicks at that point and hope he can find his swing in AAA. But Santana in center is not an option. I was surprised Steiny made that move. It worked this time, it will not work most of the time. For that reason, I doubt Gardy would have done it had he not been ejected.
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    The window of opportunity is only so big in professional sports, so I'm not against players learning another position in order to play in the MLB. However, there are a few problems.

    First of all, losing Morneau was not insignificant. Mauer and Colabello have been a bit shaky over there. The Twins lost Florimon's defense because he couldn't hit. Secondly, there's way too much experimentation with the Twins this year. First it's Bartlett, then Escobar and Santana, who else?

    I wish some of these players would develop their skills as an outfielder or whatever position they want to play in the minor leagues before embarrassing themselves at the MLB level. I'd rather have 9 guys who are solid defenders than 9 guys who can play multiple positions, but are mediocre at most of them!

    It really didn't bother me that Joe Mauer moved to first base due to health issues, but that's only one move. It's the fact that there's way too much experimentation going on at the MLB level and it's burning us!

    It's not too late for a guy like Danny Santana (or any of the other younger guys in the minors for that matter) to go down to the minors and learn how to play the outfield if that's what he wants to do.
    Last edited by Reider; 05-11-2014 at 07:05 PM.

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    My favorite thing about Santana is that in about 1/4 the number of games, Santana already has triple the RBI's and triple the doubles of Florimon and an OPS about .700 higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by milldaddy35 View Post
    Trade Florimon
    He will depart the same way he arrived, via waivers.

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    I admit I thought he'd hit more like Floriman, and field a bit worse. I have NO IDEA if he can play CF.....but since they have no SS anywhere near the majors, why not let him play SS for awhile? If that doesn't work, send him to AAA for a month to play CF (it's not like anyone in AA or AAA is blocking him......sigh).
    Lighten up Francis....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danchat View Post
    It won't be too long until his batting average dips under .220, but he's really exciting. His speed is fantastic and I hope he doesn't get injured (an injury that would sap his speed, that is. Like Mastoianni). Might as well keep starting him while he's hot.
    While it would typically be horrible if your SS batting average drops to .220, he would be getting 2x the hits of the guy he is replacing. So i think this works out really well. We get way more offensive production out of SS and he can learn on the job.

    I assure you, if 80 balls get through the SS gaps, Pedro would not get to 40 of them. So this works out pretty well.

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    If anything I'd put Santana at SS while he's hot and let utilityman Escobar play CF while he's hot. Then when things need to change just send out Santana to learn SS at AAA.

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    Funny when two of your hottest hitters play SS as their best position, especially on the Twins. I would rather keep playing Santana at SS 4-5 times a week if he is going to stay up. Escobar could play SS 2-3 times a week and sub in other positions and probably have 4-5 games a week also.

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    Santana will hit. He just might stick around, and some I know think this should of been done earlier. Keep him at short and play Escobar at 3rd once in awhile. He hits, or is, better than Plouffe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halsey Hall View Post
    Santana will hit. He just might stick around, and some I know think this should of been done earlier. Keep him at short and play Escobar at 3rd once in awhile. He hits, or is, better than Plouffe.
    I doubt that will be the case by the end of the season. Escobar doesn't have a chance to OPS .700 while Plouffe OPS's .700+ and is a disappointment. there's also a chance that things click for Plouffe and he becomes a less streaky solid hitter (.750+ OPS).

    I think the Twins should start Santana 4-5 games/wk and rotate Escobar in wherever there is an opening (even CF if he's not horrible).

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab21 View Post
    I doubt that will be the case by the end of the season. Escobar doesn't have a chance to OPS .700 while Plouffe OPS's .700+ and is a disappointment. there's also a chance that things click for Plouffe and he becomes a less streaky solid hitter (.750+ OPS).

    I think the Twins should start Santana 4-5 games/wk and rotate Escobar in wherever there is an opening (even CF if he's not horrible).
    Agreed. The likelihood of Plouffe becoming an acceptable long-term 3B is much higher than Escobar doing the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    He will depart the same way he arrived, via waivers.
    Three errors in three games and three 0fers for the Red Wings. The spiral has yet to bottom out.
    "If you'da been thinkin' you wouldn't 'a thought that.."

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmathewson View Post
    Three errors in three games and three 0fers for the Red Wings. The spiral has yet to bottom out.
    I take no pleasure in seeing him fall apart, of course. He battled a physical ailment this spring that would have kept me recuperating for weeks longer. This is probably harder for him than being waived by the Orioles, since someone still wanted to pick him up and give him a chance.

    The fielding will straighten itself out, but the bat just won't. The majority of aspiring infielders eventually have to face this, it just took longer for him and it's probably no consolation to him at this moment that he held onto that bottom rung in the majors for a while.

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