06-16-2014, 03:12 PM #1
2014 International FA thread
July 2 isn't that far away. Probably worth starting to start talking about the international signings. Last year, the Twins big prize was Lewin Diaz, a 16 year old future power 1B that will hopefully develop into a middle order bat. Not sure who the big names are on the market, but it looks like the Yankees are going to do what the Cubs did last year and significantly outspend their allotment. The Twins certainly won't do that, but they will likely be sitting on a pretty nice pool amount.
Start posting names about guys you want. Personally, I want them going after pitchers and middle infielders.
EDIT: I'm going to use this track the signings/bonuses. We didn't do that last year and I think it's beneficial.
Total Pool: 3.6 million.
Huascar Ynoa - P - 800K
Jean Carlos Arias - OF - 450K
Dalin Cuesto - C - ????
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06-16-2014, 03:40 PM #2
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The Yankees have publicly stated this is there intention. I'd have to believe there are plenty of other clubs that are also going to do this but who have the good sense to keep it to themselves until the signings begin.
I'm not anticipating the Twins getting any of the top 20 or so guys unless the Twins also go over their allotment which I think we all suspect they will not.
06-16-2014, 03:59 PM #3
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Any names/numbers on guys we got last year as well as bonuses for players and left over pool money?
06-16-2014, 04:25 PM #4
I get the feeling it's going to be 'always the bridesmaid' kind of year for the Twins. No top 20 guys. They'll spend the cash, but it going to be spread out. The top guys I liked were Gilbert Lara(3B), Huascar Ynoa(SP) , and Adrian Rondon (SS). The Twins were in on Lara and Ynoa, but it's believed Lara has agreed to big money from the Brewers, Rondon with Tampa Bay, and Ynoa will end up with either the Red or White Sox.
You can get Fantastic players with $50,000 and under bonus, everyone is so far out its crazy trying to project 15-16 year olds, but it always fun hear about a high bonus guy going high. Don't know if there is any of those guys for the Twins this year.
06-16-2014, 04:57 PM #5
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this new system of international signings is going to be much more abused than the old one. only sitting out a year as a penalty for overspending incites those teams to go ahead and spend away every other year and, once they've started to spend, to keep throwing money at players because of the impending sanctions. this will likely result in a group of teams taking turns to dominate the market. this year it'll be the yankees and a few others, next year it'll be the cubs and what ever other team is on that cycle.
06-16-2014, 05:19 PM #6
reported another odd side effect. Some teams can't even see the top prospect play anymore, they come to verbal agreements 6-12 months ahead of time so their trainer take them off the show circuits to avoid injury. No high school ball so top pool teams never get to see these guys and reporters and experts can't get much info on them.
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06-24-2014, 07:35 AM #9
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06-28-2014, 10:16 PM #12
Mike Berardino's Article/Interview with Terry Ryan about the International signing period which starts Wednesday. Ryan doesn't give out too many new details but here a few interesting tidbits:
- Ryan is skeptical about reports of the Yankees/other teams blowing past their cap space on players this years.
- The Twins won't be trading away cap space. They have players they like.
- Ynoa had a bad outing (I'm not sure if that increases or decrease the odds of the Twins signing him).
07-03-2014, 08:29 AM #13
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Nelson Gomez, IF $2.25MM (#2 Prospect)
Wilkerman Garcia, SS $1.35MM (#14 Prospect)
Dermis Garcia, SS $3.2MM (#1 Prospect)
Miguel Flames, C $1MM (#25 Prospect)
Juan De Leon, OF $??? (#5 Prospect)
Hyo-Jun Park, SS $1.1MM (#13 Prospect)
Jonathan Amundary, OF $1.5MM (#7 Prospect)
Antonio Arias, OF $.8MM (#8 Prospect)
That's 8 of the top 25 prospects (5 of the top 10) at over $11MM so far. Clearly the penalties are not nearly enough. The Yankees are expected to spend over $30MM with the 100% overage tax. It makes me sick. Maybe if the overage tax was 10,000% it would be fairer.
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07-03-2014, 11:01 AM #14
We're up to $13.1M (14.1 if you include Flames' bonus)
The linked article below makes it sound like it's a 3 year penalty, but it's really "just" a two year penalty.
I wonder where the penalty money goes.
07-03-2014, 11:37 AM #15
Jermaine Dupri and Jay-Z perform the 2014 Yankees International Free Agency Plan. (Jay actually wears a Yankees jersey.)
07-04-2014, 10:36 AM #16
Wolfson's latest tweet. I've tweeted him asking for names and amounts with no response so far. If a few others sent it out, we could get it updated here.
07-07-2014, 06:25 PM #17
Looks like one of the outfielders is Rowen Ebersohn:
Looks like a legit power Lefty who used to pitch. Not much on him, but a better prospect then our pervious two South Africans that's for sure.