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Thread: Twins vs. Rangers, 07/08/2012, 6:05pm

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    Twins lose, infield practice in the morning!

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    Twins should have won this. I blame Gardenhire for leaving Perkins in for too long.

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    Its not because of this...but when you arent trying to win, you dont win.
    What do I mean. Its more important to Gardy to rest Burton than pitch him in the 8th. This happenned in DET with the lead & Burnett lost the game. Happenned tonight & tho Fien pitched a great 8th, its still the mindset.
    2 games that were lost on this trip in games gardy didnt do everything he could to win it. Team got what they deserve

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    Some 0-2 count stuff, league as a whole.

    Year BA OBP SLG OPS
    2012 .148 .155 .221 .376
    2011 .152 .160 .217 .377
    2010 .156 .165 .220 .385
    2009 .156 .164 .221 .385
    2008 .160 .170 .230 .401
    2007 .166 .177 .235 .412
    2006 .168 .178 .244 .422
    2005 .164 .173 .237 .409
    2004 .165 .175 .246 .421
    2003 .159 .170 .230 .400
    2002 .160 .170 .233 .402
    2001 .159 .171 .236 .407
    2000 .161 .171 .237 .408
    1990 .155 .162 .213 .375
    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    Twins should have won this. I blame Gardenhire for leaving Perkins in for too long.
    Who do you put in.....Gardy already decided, even with the 4 day break, that the game wasnt important enough to risk pitching Jaret Burton. Gardy lost this game before it started with that attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    Some 0-2 count stuff, league as a whole.

    Interesting. That ON 0-2 or AFTER 0-2? (I'm lazy and semi-busy or I'd just look it up.)

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    Those numbers were strictly 'on' 0-2.
    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
    - Strib commenter educating the elitists on the value of RBI's

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    Some 0-2 count stuff, league as a whole.

    Year BA OBP SLG OPS
    2012 .148 .155 .221 .376
    2011 .152 .160 .217 .377
    2010 .156 .165 .220 .385
    2009 .156 .164 .221 .385
    2008 .160 .170 .230 .401
    2007 .166 .177 .235 .412
    2006 .168 .178 .244 .422
    2005 .164 .173 .237 .409
    2004 .165 .175 .246 .421
    2003 .159 .170 .230 .400
    2002 .160 .170 .233 .402
    2001 .159 .171 .236 .407
    2000 .161 .171 .237 .408
    1990 .155 .162 .213 .375
    If you watched SAT's game, you'ld know Mitch Williams believes you should always waste a pitch on an 0-2 count.
    Again, when it can be disputed with numbers....makes ya look like an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    Those numbers were strictly 'on' 0-2.
    After I asked, I sorta figured based on just how bad they were. So much for figuring out the motives since the crime appears not to have happened!

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    Disappointing loss, but at least De Vries looked good.

    The defense let em down tonight.

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    Personally I dont blame Dozier one bit for the loss.
    Twins led 3-1 with 1 out & nobody on with their current/future closer out there. I get the whole 4 outs thing, but a pitcher cannot give up unearned runs without takin blame either (unless the error directly affected the run). Pitchers need to man up too.

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    I don't get blaming Gardenhire for this loss. At all. He had the right pitcher in the game, at the right time. The pitcher didn't get the job done. That ain't on Gardy.

    Maybe I'm old school, but in my day, a pitcher used to get fined for giving up hard contact on 0-2, much less a hit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I don't get blaming Gardenhire for this loss. At all. He had the right pitcher in the game, at the right time. The pitcher didn't get the job done. That ain't on Gardy.

    Maybe I'm old school, but in my day, a pitcher used to get fined for giving up hard contact on 0-2, much less a hit.
    Yup, best reliver was on the mound at the time. At that point its "his" game. Ya win some ya lose some.

    This was a rough first half no doubt, but there have been some positives to take away: Plouffe, Mauer, Willingham, Doumit, Span, Revere have all been producing very well, Morneau is at least healthy and Dozier well, shows flashes here and there. The bullpen has been very good all season and the rotation, while a mess has produced some bright spots at points Diamond, Liriano, Walters are 3 guys if chosen to could be a decent set up to a 2013 rotation (3,4,5) still need a 1,2 but its getting better.

    Also since May 27th the Twins have had a 21-16 record, 17-12 since Jun 2nd so there is some hope they can finish with 75 or so wins, which is far from great but something to build on heading into 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    Maybe I'm old
    Maybe?






















































































    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
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    Maybe?
    Yeah, like Sid Hartman only being newly minted into AARP...

    Anyone else sitting on the edge of their seats waiting for Capps to come back??

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    Ugh. I can't believe they lost that game. I checked in on my phone in the ninth, saw, they had a lead, and went to sleep.

    Probably for the best.

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    I'm shocked Gardy hasn't lost his mind over Dozier's glove and lack of hitting.

    Maybe he's just doesn't care anymore, but Bartlett would be sent back to A-ball if he played as ****ty as Doz has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    Maybe?

    And to think I worried about you when you went missing.

    While I think of it, get off my lawn.
    Last edited by USAFChief; 07-09-2012 at 11:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greengoblinrulz View Post
    Twins led 3-1 with 1 out & nobody on with their current/future closer out there.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    While I think of it, get off my lawn.
    We're grilling burgers tonight. Can I have one of the onions from your belt?

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