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    Damn. Francisco is dealing.

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    Hammertime, minus the Span pickoff

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    nice hit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    Damn. Francisco is dealing.
    His trade value should zoom if he can sustain this pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    His trade value should zoom if he can sustain this pace.
    but do you deal him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofVodkaDave View Post
    I will never doubt the Latino Pitcher Whisperer again. We need to bring back Silva now.
    They need to rescue Trashcan Gabino from whatever beer league he's pitching in and let him know they found a cure.
    There isn't enough defense on the planet to justify giving 500+ PA to a guy who can barely OPS .600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    but do you deal him?
    There is zero reason not to unless you think it's a good idea to spend $12.5m on the guy in 2013.

    Given his track record, that's not a good idea. There's too big a risk in trusting Francisco to string together consecutive above-average seasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    but do you deal him?
    No. You extend him.

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    With the track record I agree. but are we not looking for an ace for the staff? it is possible we already have one on our roster.... possible. He's not pitching over his potential today. This is his potential this is what he can and should be. I think it's dicey to let him go and try to sign an ace from somewhere else. but yes, his trade value is high and he does have a bad track record.

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    Huzzah trade value....keep going buddy. Just a few more weeks before your wheels fall off again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    No. You extend him.
    I agree, but if they do trade him, they might get something really good if he can keep pitching like he is pitching tonight.

    Liriano is the closest to an ace that the Twins may have in the foreseeable future, and I would vote to keep him. But if they do trade him, tonight's performance may greatly enhance his value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    With the track record I agree. but are we not looking for an ace for the staff? it is possible we already have one on our roster.... possible. He's not pitching over his potential today. This is his potential this is what he can and should be. I think it's dicey to let him go and try to sign an ace from somewhere else. but yes, his trade value is high and he does have a bad track record.
    Since TJ surgery, Francisco has been pretty good, devastatingly awful, really good, really awful, and now his 2012.

    Sure, he could put it together for 2013 and be worth $12.5m. But given his track record, I think it's time for the Twins to look in other directions.

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    8 Ks in 3 IP.

    Yowza.

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    I think its the haircut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    Since TJ surgery, Francisco has been pretty good, devastatingly awful, really good, really awful, and now his 2012.

    Sure, he could put it together for 2013 and be worth $12.5m. But given his track record, I think it's time for the Twins to look in other directions.
    Right. But if traded or if the Twins go in another direction, don't jump on the bashing wagon like everyone else surely would.

    It's a tough call for the Ryan and the Twins. Can't be too upset if either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocketpig View Post
    Since TJ surgery, Francisco has been pretty good, devastatingly awful, really good, really awful, and now his 2012.

    Sure, he could put it together for 2013 and be worth $12.5m. But given his track record, I think it's time for the Twins to look in other directions.
    Look at you go. Talking about baseball again! It must feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance View Post
    Right. But if traded or if the Twins go in another direction, don't jump on the bashing wagon like everyone else surely would.

    It's a tough call for the Ryan and the Twins. Can't be too upset if either way.
    I don't think anyone would either way. I'm in favor of keeping him and have been all season, but the other side is just as valid.

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    That is not an out.

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    Yeah, I also wouldn't be crushed if the Twins decide to try to retain Liriano. I lean toward trading him but both sides have their points.

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    He clearly dropped the ball, they figured it out without replay, watch the replay Dick and TK.

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