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    Twins vs Mariners, 08-18-2012, 8:10pm

    Twins:
    Jamey Carroll 2B

    Darin Mastroianni CF
    Joe Mauer C
    Josh Willingham DH
    Justin Morneau 1B
    Ryan Doumit LF
    Trevor Plouffe 3B
    Matt Carson RF
    Pedro Florimon SS
    (Scott Diamond P)

    Mariners:
    Dustin Ackley 2B
    Trayvon Robinson LF
    Jesus Montero C
    Miguel Olivo DH
    Kyle Seager 3B
    Justin Smoak 1B
    Casper Wells RF
    Michael Saunders CF
    Brendan Ryan SS
    (Jason Vargas P)

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    No Span, No Revere.

    At the time of both injuries they didn't seem that serious. Span finished out the inning after his dive. Is this a case of the Medical staff being overly cautious? I heard Gardy talk about this on Friday, he said the trainers take them onto the field and put them through specific routines and then it is in the players hands to tell them if they can play. Are Ben and Denard really that dinged up? Or is they just a case of don't rush them back onto the field when we 10+ games out and it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme?

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    Quote Originally Posted by minn55441 View Post
    No Span, No Revere.

    1) At the time of both injuries they didn't seem that serious.

    2) Span finished out the inning after his dive.


    3) Is this a case of the Medical staff being overly cautious?

    4) I heard Gardy talk about this on Friday, he said the trainers take them onto the field and put them through specific routines and then it is in the players hands to tell them if they can play. Are Ben and Denard really that dinged up?

    5) Or is they just a case of don't rush them back onto the field when we 10+ games out, and

    6) it really doesn't matter in the grand scheme?


    Wow, 6 bum trip flashbacks to 2011 in one post!

    Well done minn55441, well done.

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    Why take any risk at all at this point? These games don't matter enough to take any chance of further injury.

    On the other hand, I would DL Span and bring up Parmelee, then use Parmelee to give additional rest to Morneau, Mauer and Willingham. We want these players to be at their best next year.

    Helluva a throw by Carson to get that guy at third.

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    Roll call. Is anyone else watching the game now? I am having to endure the Mariners announcers.

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    Just checking the game now glunn, after last night I'm only checking in time to time.
    Man is born free, but everywhere he is in chains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    Why take any risk at all at this point? These games don't matter enough to take any chance of further injury.

    On the other hand, I would DL Span and bring up Parmelee, then use Parmelee to give additional rest to Morneau, Mauer and Willingham. We want these players to be at their best next year.

    Helluva a throw by Carson to get that guy at third.
    The Twins could send down the #12 pitcher, call up Parmelle/Arica/whoever and then flip a different pitcher when Revere/Span are finally ready. Regardless, if as I agree with you, "these games don't matter", just DL Span and call up another bat already.

    Carson is a nice story. Handling his business with alacrity thus far.

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    Florimon is a more intriguing player than I thought. I had a mental image of a tiny, frail Alexi Ramirez type - but the he's a pretty big guy. The fielding report looks pretty dead on so far too - very smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    Roll call. Is anyone else watching the game now? I am having to endure the Mariners announcers.
    I think you're getting a preview of dog day baseball attention spans, it could get pretty lonely around here. When even all the mods/staffers have moved on, you get an indication of a team in the process of becoming a September afterthought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
    Florimon is a more intriguing player than I thought. I had a mental image of a tiny, frail Alexi Ramirez type - but the he's a pretty big guy. The fielding report looks pretty dead on so far too - very smooth.
    I was wondering the same thing. Nice presence at the plate, his baserunning was fast but seemingly effortless cruising into 3B on that triple. Looked like a real take-charge guy on that play out in LF last night. I would like to see him click on some DPs, make the throws from the hole and charging the slow ball, but so far he's come as Seth advertised with his IL fielding credentials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post

    Carson is a nice story. Handling his business with alacrity thus far.
    Alacrity. I like that description.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
    Florimon is a more intriguing player than I thought. I had a mental image of a tiny, frail Alexi Ramirez type - but the he's a pretty big guy. The fielding report looks pretty dead on so far too - very smooth.
    I was wondering the same thing. Nice presence at the plate, his baserunning was fast but seemingly effortless cruising into 3B on that triple. Looked like a real take-charge guy on that play out in LF last night. I would like to see him click on some DPs, make the throws from the hole and charging the slow ball, but so far he's come as Seth advertised with his IL fielding credentials.
    I agree with both of you. If this guy can hit better than Dozier, then he should keep playing.

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    We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jokin View Post
    I was wondering the same thing. Nice presence at the plate, his baserunning was fast but seemingly effortless cruising into 3B on that triple. Looked like a real take-charge guy on that play out in LF last night. I would like to see him click on some DPs, make the throws from the hole and charging the slow ball, but so far he's come as Seth advertised with his IL fielding credentials.
    I was hoping Diamond pitching would give us some better looks. The guy is built more like a third baseman, I guess I also didn't know he was a switch hitter. There is really a lot to like about this kid, wish we would've seen him sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).
    I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.

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    Carson singles - Florimon singles - I'm having flashbacks - where am I? Rochester?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbknudson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).
    I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.
    I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sbknudson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).
    I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.
    I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.
    It's good to unload that stuff - repressing it only makes it worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbknudson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sbknudson View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by glunn View Post
    We got ROBBED on that play at first (but maybe Diamond should have gotten there a bit sooner).
    I can't fault the umpire too much for that one. It was barely perceptible on slow-mo that Diamond got there a fraction sooner. At real speed, it would have looked like a tie, and that goes to the runner.
    I agree 100% -- I don't fault the ump. But it made me feel better to complain.
    It's good to unload that stuff - repressing it only makes it worse.
    Then I will also express my displeasure at Carson not beating the throw at third. That blunder may cost us this game.

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    Can't dispute that one - he needs to be moving on that.

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