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    Ryan removes "Interim" label from his title

    In no surprise, Twins Interim GM Terry Ryan announced that he has removed the "Interim" tag from his job title.

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    Down go the "Fire Interim GM Terry Ryan" arguments. From now on it will be "Fire GM Terry Ryan".

    Let the complaining about lack of organizational direction change commence!

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    Really? We want Ryan to be fired? He has been back for one year. Did you expect the ship to be turned fully around in 365 days?
    "They are the team Minnesota deserves, not the one they need right now."

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    Less than a year, actually. They fired Smith a month into the offseason last year.

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    Ryan's got a pretty sweet gig if he can give himself a promotion like that.

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    Great! Nothing better than having a GM and scouting staff that cant draft or develop. This will not end well!

    Why wasnt he fired? He failed to cash in any vets for prospects this system needs. He also gave up a pick for Capps again ignoring the farm system. The game sadly has passed him by and we Twins fans will pay the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    Really? We want Ryan to be fired? He has been back for one year. Did you expect the ship to be turned fully around in 365 days?
    365 days? Some of these guys were talking about it after 6 months....or less, very reasonable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    Really? We want Ryan to be fired? He has been back for one year. Did you expect the ship to be turned fully around in 365 days?
    365 days? Some of these guys were talking about it after 6 months....or less, very reasonable.
    I just can't understand how some people think. I guess people forgot how good Terry Ryan was in his first stint as GM. You got to have patience with this.
    "They are the team Minnesota deserves, not the one they need right now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Ryan's got a pretty sweet gig if he can give himself a promotion like that.
    It seems kind of strange that Terry Ryan has Jerry Jones like control without being the owner. Maybe Ryan has some Dirt on the Pohlads.

    My guess is that he is physically abusive to Jim Pohlad and has him under his thumb. Who knows, Jim Pohlad might want to be a big spender, but Terry Ryan has stifled his desire by intimidation and physical violence.

    Maybe Ryan is the recipient of the extra pesos the Twins bring in with the new stadium. If this is the case, I hope he spends it on making snuff films, mink coats, and collecting Peter KŁrten memorabilia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by twinsnorth49 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    Really? We want Ryan to be fired? He has been back for one year. Did you expect the ship to be turned fully around in 365 days?
    365 days? Some of these guys were talking about it after 6 months....or less, very reasonable.
    I just can't understand how some people think. I guess people forgot how good Terry Ryan was in his first stint as GM. You got to have patience with this.
    I see you are new here. Welcome. To help you out, you need to know this site has two types of people:
    - People who believe that the Twins need to fire everybody, trade everybody, and spend tons of money on FA
    - Me and 11 other people who don't believe in kneejerk reactions.

    Best of luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinswon1991 View Post
    Great! Nothing better than having a GM and scouting staff that cant draft or develop. This will not end well!

    Why wasnt he fired? He failed to cash in any vets for prospects this system needs. He also gave up a pick for Capps again ignoring the farm system. The game sadly has passed him by and we Twins fans will pay the price.

    I'm pretty sure they were saying the same thing about Billy Beane prior to the start of this season. They had averaged 76 wins the previous 5 seasons (only once finishing at .500). This past off season, he traded away all of his best players and by most accounts, didn't get much in return. I'm pretty sure they are glad that they didn't have some knee-jerk reaction and blow everything up.

    If you believe and have faith, things tend to work out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fire Dan Gladden View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    Really? We want Ryan to be fired? He has been back for one year. Did you expect the ship to be turned fully around in 365 days?
    365 days? Some of these guys were talking about it after 6 months....or less, very reasonable.
    I just can't understand how some people think. I guess people forgot how good Terry Ryan was in his first stint as GM. You got to have patience with this.
    I see you are new here. Welcome. To help you out, you need to know this site has two types of people:
    - People who believe that the Twins need to fire everybody, trade everybody, and spend tons of money on FA
    - Me and 11 other people who don't believe in kneejerk reactions.

    Best of luck!
    It's more like there are eleven people calling for the heads of management and the majority are pretty reasonable. The knee-jerkers just whine the loudest; which is a problem on message boards of all types.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    I guess people forgot how good Terry Ryan was in his first stint as GM. You got to have patience with this.
    I think that most people forgot how bad also was Terry Ryan as a GM in his first part of his first stint with the Twins. Ryan was a GM for the Twins from 1994-2006 and in 2012. During that 14 year stint the Twins

    Won the division 4 times
    finished second 1 time
    finished third 1 time
    finished fourth 4 times
    finished last 4 times

    and from those 14 seasons, the Twins have had winning records only 6.
    And he was fine with the contraction...
    and he undid what McPhail did.

    So tell me, as a whole is that "good" or "bad"?
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    I liked the "interim" tag. It gave me some hope that they still might decided to overhaul this organization and inject new ideas, energy and talent.

    We continue with "Back to the Future" and basically no hope that the Twins will ever be interested in doing anything except lining the Pohlad's pockets by being competitive in the Central.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
    I liked the "interim" tag. It gave me some hope that they still might decided to overhaul this organization and inject new ideas, energy and talent.

    We continue with "Back to the Future" and basically no hope that the Twins will ever be interested in doing anything except lining the Pohlad's pockets by being competitive in the Central.
    Frankly, I think you're on the money here. I'd agree that Terry Ryan's head shouldn't be called for, but this seems like a move that re-instates a status quo when maybe new ideas should probably be being considered.
    Last edited by Alex; 10-05-2012 at 06:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thrylos98 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by gilesferrell View Post
    I guess people forgot how good Terry Ryan was in his first stint as GM. You got to have patience with this.
    I think that most people forgot how bad also was Terry Ryan as a GM in his first part of his first stint with the Twins. Ryan was a GM for the Twins from 1994-2006 and in 2012. During that 14 year stint the Twins

    Won the division 4 times
    finished second 1 time
    finished third 1 time
    finished fourth 4 times
    finished last 4 times

    and from those 14 seasons, the Twins have had winning records only 6.
    And he was fine with the contraction...
    and he undid what McPhail did.

    So tell me, as a whole is that "good" or "bad"?
    I don't know if it was as whole good or bad, but can you stop with the "knee jerk reactions" already, you're giving me whiplash with all your- unfair-to-the-"pretty reasonable"-crowd, off-the-top-of-your-head- facts....
    Last edited by jokin; 10-05-2012 at 06:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
    I liked the "interim" tag. It gave me some hope that they still might decided to overhaul this organization and inject new ideas, energy and talent.

    We continue with "Back to the Future" and basically no hope that the Twins will ever be interested in doing anything except lining the Pohlad's pockets by being competitive in the Central.
    Frankly, I think you're on the money here. I'd agree that Terry Ryan's head shouldn't be called for, but this seems like a move that re-instates a status quo when maybe new ideas should probably be being considered.
    Would you two stop all your whining, you guys are clearly the problem on this board. Join the majority of the "pretty reasonable" folks here who keep the faith, don't engage in "knee jerk reactions" and blindly support the Twins to continue the status quo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
    I liked the "interim" tag. It gave me some hope that they still might decided to overhaul this organization and inject new ideas, energy and talent.

    We continue with "Back to the Future" and basically no hope that the Twins will ever be interested in doing anything except lining the Pohlad's pockets by being competitive in the Central.
    Frankly, I think you're on the money here. I'd agree that Terry Ryan's head shouldn't be called for, but this seems like a move that re-instates a status quo when maybe new ideas should probably be being considered.
    The status quo should not be acceptable. Ryan and his good ole boys have done a horrific job of drafting and developing. The international signings and being bad enough to get Buxton have saved the position players in the org.

    Secondly, for those who think Ryan has such a track record, how many playoff series wins do the Twins have in his reign? They only have 1 more than the lowely Pirates and Royals. Hardly a glowing record especially when you consider the AL Central has been the worst division in baseball over the last 15 years.

    15 years ago you could outwork other teams and being "nice guys" gave you a nice advantage. Now you need to outwork, outhink and out-innovate compared to your opponents. There is no way that Terry and his band of old school guys can compete in the new age and they have proved it over the last 10 years.

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    I guess your thoughts on Ryan's ability should hinge on how responsible he was for the awful BS era. the 90's were awful and despite losing in the playoffs the 2000's were very good for a team on a shoestring budget. At that time many wondered what Ryan could do with an adequate budget. He now has a budget to work with and he made two outstanding FA pickups last season.

    It might also too early to call the drafting and developing horrific. The horrific years of the draft (2004-2009) include Plouffe, Perkins, Slowey, Garza, Duensing, Parmelee, Hicks, Benson, Revere and Gibson. they made an awful trade with Garza but they still drafted and developed him. It's also worth pointing out that once you get outside of the top the draft is largely hit and miss and that is where the Twins drafted for the entire decade.

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    If the status quo was acceptable no one would have been let go. It takes time to turn an organization around. Unless you have $200 million to spend this will take time. Starting Pitching does not grow on trees.
    Look at the draft this year to see how Ryan has adapted to stuff pitchers, rather than pitch to contact. He also seems to have put Gardy on notice that if he feels Gardy is not getting the best of his talent, he will be gone during or after next year. Poland's have a new set of economics, based on information from Ruesse's column in the Star Trib. They need to fill seats and 70 - 80 win seasons will not do it.
    Draft in later first round and below is a crapshoot. Ryan seems to have done well last year and we will see how many of these players make the major leagues in the next 3 years. Give this some time.
    Remember the grass is not always as green as it seems on the other side of the fence, checkout Kansas City.

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