11-08-2012, 04:53 PM #41
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11-08-2012, 04:59 PM #44
There is a pretty solid comparison there considering the velocity drops and injuries. Jurrjens' knee and Hanson's shoulder. I wouldn't mind gambling on Hanson, but there's high risk there.
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11-08-2012, 05:42 PM #46
Biggentleben, as a Braves fan what do you think of this trade..
Denard Span, Ryan Doumit, Jamey Carroll, Jared Burton and $2 million cash for Randall Delgado, Tommy Hanson, Nick Ahmed and David Hale
Prado in LF, Span in CF
Doumit catches til McCann is back and can play LF with moving Prado to 3B
Francisco at 3B vs. RH and Carroll vs. LH + Utility IF
Burton as the late inning RH to Kimbrel.
Leaves plenty of money to sign a Sanchez, Jackson or Marcum type pitcher and extensions for Prado and Heyward.
Seem pretty fair? Just fun to think about.
11-08-2012, 07:23 PM #47
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The Braves also have Simmons backing up Pastornicky at SS. That guy can flash some leather.
11-08-2012, 07:38 PM #48
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11-08-2012, 09:11 PM #51
The only thing that deal is missing is Brian Duensing to really cement it in the "I'm just making this stupid suggestion for laughs" category.
11-08-2012, 09:21 PM #52
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11-08-2012, 09:28 PM #53
11-08-2012, 10:01 PM #54
From MLBTR today:
The Braves are looking at center field options to replace Michael Bourn and the Twins' Denard Span "is likely high on the list of potential trade target," writes David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The Braves and Twins match up well as trade partners, as Minnesota is desperate for pitching and Atlanta is one of the few teams with available young arms. The Braves "havenít entirely given up" on re-signing Bourn, but the club is unlikely to match the demands from Bourn and agent Scott Boras.
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11-08-2012, 11:37 PM #55
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11-09-2012, 12:25 AM #56
I'm not going to argue with any of the rude replies to a question where I specifically asked one person, but just know that there was a thought process to my question.
-Denard Span is obvious so I'll skip why he was involved.
-Brian McCann had shoulder surgery and will miss significant time. The Braves have a need at C and are looking at David Ross (their backup from 2012) who will cost similar to what Doumit is making. On top of this McCann is a free agent after the season and the Braves might not be able to afford him considering they have to pay Prado, Heyward and Freeman. Doumit would be a decent stop gap for Christian Bethancourt as Doumit is signed through 2014.
-The Braves have Juan Francisco to play 3B who has 20+ HR power and hits RH pitching well, but is brutal against LH pitching. Carroll had an .839 OPS against LH pitching in 2012. The $2 million added makes him only cost $1.75 and there were already reports that the Braves were looking for a backup middle infielder.
-The Braves have a strong bullpen, but their late inning guys are O'Flaherty and Venters who are both lefties. Durbin was their righty and he's a FA so Burton would not only replace him, but be an upgrade.
As for the return..
-Delgado is the centerpiece
-Hanson's value has significantly dropped with his drop in velocity and poor 2012. Sure the Braves would be selling low, but they may be wary of investing $4 million on a guy who could fall off the map like Jurrjens did.. Obviously I could be wrong on them selling low, but if you read the article I linked above there are opinions that Hanson could only get a "promising bullpen arm" now.
-Ahmed is blocked by Simmons and isn't that highly regarded anyway. Similar to Brian Dozier: no tools that stand out but does a lot of things right.
-Hale is a borderline top 20 prospect in their organization. he's 25 and hasn't pitched an inning past AA, so instead of asking for Sprull or Graham I added him.
Like I mentioned, it was just fun to ask. But instead of just reading names and assuming it's a bad trade, do some research and realize there was a thought process.. Thanks.
11-09-2012, 12:30 AM #57
11-09-2012, 12:39 AM #58
Ahmed is probably not going to achieve MLB status until he's 25ish, but he's someone that the organization regards very highly. According to rumors, he was part of the reason for backing out of one deadline deal this year. He's what would seem like a perfect future utility guy, and it's highly doubtful that the Braves will consider moving him until he fails a level. He made a big jump (2 levels) this year and held his own. I'd wager he'll go up step by step from here, but he's very highly regarded by the organization, so he's going to be tough to get involved in a deal.
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