01-28-2013, 08:24 AM #21
Mauer's only caught that many games once before, in 2008. He had back surgery twice in the following offseason.
01-28-2013, 08:27 AM #22
IMO, 100 games at C is a "fine number", in what they've already essentially admitted is a lost season. They extended Doumit for more than the going rate for just "insurance" at C plus DHing. I want Joe to "offer the far and away best option behind the plate" through the 2018 season. More physical breakdowns, like after 2008 and 2010 are more likely, not less, with similar workloads, as he continues into his 30s.
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01-28-2013, 08:29 AM #23
01-28-2013, 08:34 AM #24
01-28-2013, 08:43 AM #25
Ryan made a curious public statement regarding Mauer's status, to say the least.
The statement contradicts the contract extension to Doumit.
The statement contradicts the very successful plan that he and Gardy hatched in 2012.
The statement jeopardizes the investment still committed to Mauer for the next 6 years.
The statement contradicts common sense for what Ryan has already admitted is a lost season, a season that- according to Ryan- the best that fans can hope for, is to "treasure" a professional approach over wins and losses.
01-28-2013, 08:52 AM #26
Gardy's comments are a way more accurate reflection of the upcoming situation than Ryan's.There was one sentence from TR quoted in the article, I just take it as Ryan making more of an overall comment on Mauer's health and taking an opportunity to feed the fans what they want to hear, which is more Mauer at C.
There is no way he is going to play 125 games, is it in the realm of possibilty, how can you say it isn't? Is it in the realm of likely, no.
01-28-2013, 08:57 AM #27
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01-28-2013, 09:02 AM #28
I don't think it negates Doumit's signing at all. He will still catch 30+ games (probably more like 45, IMO). The rest of the time, he'll DH where he isn't a defensive liability. The guy is only paid $3.5m a year. For the kind of production he offers and the ability to play catcher, that's very reasonable.
It doesn't contradict the 2012 plan because the 2012 plan was created in the wake of 2011 when Joe had his worst season as a professional. Now that he's two years removed from the injury, I don't think there's anything wrong with pushing him behind the plate again.
I don't like much of what happened in this offseason but on this issue, I don't see a reason to be too upset about it. The best player on the team is healthy and wants to play his natural position more often. The team is allowing him to do that. Big deal.
01-28-2013, 09:17 AM #29
01-28-2013, 09:31 AM #30
This might be the worst thing Ryan has said all winter. The Twins should be looking at how to get Mauer out from behind the plate permanently--and it's already a couple years too late at minimum--rather than pretending he can be a full time catcher again. Sheesh, Ryan. I was happy as hell when you came back to replace the incompetent Smith, but I'm loosing faith pretty fast.
01-28-2013, 09:39 AM #31
Mauer offers the most value at catcher, but his long-term health should be their single greatest concern at this point. Whatever the timeline is for thsi rebuilding effort, they're still going to be working around an aging $23M Mauer and if he wears down it's going to make things awfully tough. If the Twins were making a go of it this year I'd be on board, but since they seem to have little interest in competing I don't see the need to push him. Hopefully if things go south in the early months they'll at least make adjustments. No reason to have him catching regularly in the second half of a lost season.
01-28-2013, 09:42 AM #32
But if the team is out of it in June, there's simply no reason to keep pushing that line of thinking. And chances are that the team will be out of it in June.
01-28-2013, 02:34 PM #33
and Ryan has already hoisted the white flag on that reed.
I think people tend to blank out about that part of the offseason story where the Twins gutted the top of their batting order...
01-28-2013, 02:51 PM #34
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