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    Article: Seth's 2013 Twins Hitting Projections


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    Two 30 HR's guys on the same team?!?!?! Is that allowed in baseball?!?!?

    Nice work overall. It'll be fun to see how close you get

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    Seem to be missing some MI AB's. That would probably drag the numbers down. Or believing the Twins will pick up a middle infielder somewhere along the line. Good job and very interesting though.

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    One of the more interesting battles during the season will be to see whose BA can go lower...Florimon or Butera. Seth is putting Pedro as the early season favorite. But only 62 games of that kind of offensive output. Guess he is counting on a lot of Jamey Carroll and Escobar. Either way it looks like Pedro's best bet is to just launch himself at any ball on the inside of the plate in hopes it grazes his body somewhere that will not hurt so much. Maybe he can amass more HBP then actual hits.

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    yes i to noticed about 250 missing at bats for the middle infield , along with great pleasure seeing very limited playing time for Drew,but still have 1300 plate apperences for catcher and dh spot

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    If Jamey Carroll plays both SS and 2B does he only bat once?
    Fun stuff Seth. Thank you.

    Really like the Mauer, Morneau & Willingham numbers. Some pop in the lineup would be great.

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    Great writeup Seth, thanks.

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    Great stuff, Seth. It's always fun to add a little of the 'gut' dimension back in from some of the heartless computer projections. I'd love to see those seasons out of Mauer and Morneau... and even Plouffe.

    The number that catches my eye is the overall OPS vs runs scored. OPS has correlated higher than almost any other stat to runs scored for a while now and .763 would have been top 5 last year. http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/po...gument-for-ops If we assume the other ABs mentioned (300 or so) are closer to .600, they'd still be top 10 at around .755 and 740 runs.

    At the end of the day, I think both the OBP and SLG will be a few ticks lower, but I love it overall.

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    Wow, I'm expecting Florimon to (not) hit his way out of the SS job, but even I couldn't predict that pathetic a season. I'm curious how much of that is just gut feeling and how much actual projection. I'd have pegged him for around .210/.260/.300 which is still pathetic and a fair bit better than this projection.

    I hope you're right about Morneau and Dozier. I expect Plouffe to be very streaky and Parmelee to be a fairly consistent decent hitter (similar to Doumit), so having another slugger in the lineup in Morneau to pair with Willingham would be fantastic, and we'll need one of the guys from the bottom of the order to hit better than expected, and Dozier seem like our best chance. Honestly, if you get a .685 OPS season from Carroll and a .720 OPS season from Dozier, you have to be pretty happy. Of course Florimon is gonna suck up a bunch of those at-bats to start the season off...

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    I think you're being more bullish than I'd be on Dozier and Benson. If Florimon hits like you're projecting him, the Twins can't seriously justify keeping him as the starting shortstop all season.

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    I think there are a few people too bullish (Doumit and Willingham come to mind) but I do think if Plouffe manages to hit 25 homeruns, I expect his RBI total to be closer to 80.

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    I think Morneau's homers will be a little lower, Doziers a little higher, and all Parmelee's numbers will be higher.

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    I have to say I think you're a bit overly positive on several players. I appreciate the positivity though.

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    can we DH for our SS instead of our pitcher? It might work better than letting Florimon swing the bat the way things are starting to look.

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    I'd be extremely happy with these projections, as the OBP and OPS numbers put this as one of the top offenses in the league, like top 5 for sure, both well above league average. But you also project fewer runs scored (below league avg., and which are a good margin lower than what those OBP/OPS numbers would project), which is logical considering they are replacing two guys who hit at the top of the order last year and scored 141 runs between them (Span, Revere).

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    Nice job Seth. There are some things I disagree with...for example I don't think Mauer will have a career high in strikeouts...but overall, it was pretty nice to see you put it all out there. I'd give it a 'like' but that feature seems to be missing...at least in my view.

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    Actually, not as bullish as I expected from Seth, but still a bit bullish. For example, that team HR total would easily be a Target Field record, and almost match the Twins 2009 Metrodome power surge. Someday, it will probably happen, but I don't see that happening this year.

    Also, there are no predictions here for anyone to "crater" -- every year recently the Twins have had several players, even regulars, see significant performance drops (or fail to establish an acceptable performance level, in the case of rookies). I don't see that trend completely disappearing in one year. Dozier, Escobar, Parmelee, Mastroianni, and Benson are likely candidates for this in 2013. So is Plouffe, after his second-half collapse in 2012, plus rookies (Hicks, Arcia) and old guys (Carroll), of course.

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    Florimon .189 vs. Escobar .259? That's pretty much saying Escobar should be the regular SS.

    With that arm, maybe Florimon could try out for closer.

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    These numbers all seem very plausible and reasonable to me. Nice job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Nelson View Post
    These numbers all seem very plausible and reasonable to me. Nice job.
    I agree, but do think that it is possible to plausible (It could happen) and reasonable (not without reason) but some of these are unlikely at the same time.

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