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    Has Kershaw done enough for you to be considered an "ace"? Or is he not quite there yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatt Crapps View Post
    Zobrist is eligible for SS, 2B, and RF in ESPN leagues.
    I put them at the position they'd rank highest. Zobrist would be my #5 at either 2B or SS but farther down at outfield, so I put him at 2B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fatt Crapps View Post
    Has Kershaw done enough for you to be considered an "ace"? Or is he not quite there yet?
    Kershaw absolutely, in fantasy terms. He's the #2 pitcher in every mixed-league format, and #1 in NL-only.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Brooks View Post
    He's going even later according to NFBC, at 144.47
    That's interesting as the two mocks I did through that site, he was a 9th and 10th round pick.
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    So, I'm certain you've all waited with bated breath for my review of all of these:

    Rankings in parenthesis are the actual ESPN Player Rater final rankings at the position:

    Catcher
    1. Buster Posey (7)
    2. Joe Mauer (8)
    3. Miguel Montero (28)
    4. Victor Martinez (3)
    5. Yadi Molina (1)
    6. Brian McCann (14)
    7. Carlos Santana (6)
    8. Matt Wieters (13)
    9. Salvador Perez (9)
    10. AJ Pierzynski (12)

    Not in my preseason top 10: 2. Wilin Rosario, 4. Jonathan Lucroy, 5. Mike Napoli, 10. Jarrod Saltalamacchia.

    Analysis: Catcher turned into a very hit-and-miss position in fantasy this year. Everyone either had huge prolonged slumps or injury bugs that mad you have to dig down deep for players. Look for a move from Wilson Ramos next season, fully healthy and the sole owner of the catching job in Washington for 2014 (at the moment).

    First Base
    1. Prince Fielder (9)
    2. Albert Pujols (35)
    3. Joey Votto (7)
    4. Adrian Gonzalez (10)
    5. Edwin Encarnacion (4)
    6. Freddie Freeman (3)
    7. Billy Butler (23)
    8. Allen Craig (11)
    9. Paul Konerko (48)
    10. Mark Trumbo (12)

    Not in my preseason top 10: 1. Chris Davis, 2. Paul Goldschmidt, 5. Michael Cuddyer, 6. Matt Carpenter, 8. Eric Hosmer.

    Analysis: Davis blew up this year as did Goldschmidt. He was my noted omission in March, though I did have my call on Freeman work out. Keep an eye on Brandon Belt next season as he finished 16th this season with some pretty rough run/RBI stats.

    Second Base
    1. Robinson Cano (1)
    2. Ian Kinsler (7)
    3. Dustin Pedroia (5)
    4. Brandon Phillips (8)
    5. Ben Zobrist (11)
    6. Jason Kipnis (2)
    7. Rickie Weeks (47)
    8. Chase Utley (9)
    9. Aaron Hill (21)
    10. Jose Altuve (6)

    Missing: 3. Matt Carpenter, 4. Daniel Murphy, 10. Jed Lowrie

    Analysis: Carpenter became a runs beast, but this position generally played out as expected. The guy to watch in 2014 from this position is Jedd Gyorko who finished 16th in the player rater even though he missed some significant time and was taking his first cuts at 2B this season.

    Third Base
    1. Miguel Cabrera (1)
    2. Adrian Beltre (2)
    3. David Wright (7)
    4. Evan Longoria (6)
    5. Brett Lawrie (27)
    6. Chase Headley (20)
    7. Ryan Zimmerman (9)
    8. Pablo Sandoval (15)
    9. Aramis Ramirez (25)
    10. Martin Prado (13)

    Missing: 3. Edwin Encarnacion, 4. Matt Carpenter, 5. Josh Donaldson, 8. Hanley Ramirez, 10. Manny Machado

    Analysis: This position is incredibly deep as the NL HR champion didn't even make the top 10. Keep your eye on Matt Dominguez, who absolutely has the glove to stay in the majors but showed surprising pop this year to finish in the top 20 of 3B.

    Shortstop
    1. Troy Tulowitzki (4)
    2. Jose Reyes (12)
    3. Hanley Ramirez (5)
    4. Starlin Castro (24)
    5. Asdrubel Cabrera (17)
    6. Elvis Andrus (2)
    7. Jimmy Rollins (16)
    8. Derek Jeter (88)
    9. Alexei Ramirez (6)
    10. Ian Desmond (3)

    Missing: 1. Jean Segura, 7. Evereth Cabrera, 9. Ben Zobrist, 10. JJ Hardy

    Analysis: Segura was a first-half beast but faded hard in the second-half, so he's intriguing to consider for 2014. Andrelton Simmons is arguably the best defender in baseball, regardless of position, so he'll stay on the field, and he gave owners an unexpected amount of home runs this season.

    Outfield
    1. Ryan Braun (89)
    2. Mike Trout (1)
    3. Matt Kemp (94)
    4. Andrew McCutchen (3)
    5. Giancarlo Stanton (59)
    6. Carlos Gonzalez (12)
    7. Josh Hamilton (52)
    8. Matt Holliday (13)
    9. Jose Bautista (32)
    10. Jason Heyward (80)
    11. Justin Upton (24)
    12. Bryce Harper (41)
    13. Yoenis Cespedes (45)
    14. Adam Jones (6)
    15. Carlos Beltran (21)
    16. Jay Bruce (17)
    17. BJ Upton (160)
    18. Jacoby Ellsbury (4)
    19. Shin-Soo Choo (15)
    20. Austin Jackson (48)

    Missing: 2. Chris Davis, 5. Carlos Gomez, 7. Alex Rios, 8. Hunter Pence, 9. Jayson Werth, 10. Alfonso Soriano, 11. Michael Cuddyer, 14. Matt Carpenter, 16. Starling Marte, 18. Shane Victorino, 19. Coco Crisp, 20. Torii Hunter

    Analysis: Holy crap was that a mixed bag! Studs, duds, explosions, colossal implosions. Keep an eye on Leonys Martin who had some young player struggles, but he brings a very nice power/speed combo to the table and reminds many of a young Carlos Gomez.

    Starting Pitchers
    1. Justin Verlander (41)
    2. Clayton Kershaw (1)
    3. Felix Hernandez (13)
    4. David Price (32)
    5. Jered Weaver (49)
    6. Cliff Lee (4)
    7. Stephen Strasburg (18)
    8. Cole Hamels (39)
    9. Adam Wainwright (3)
    10. RA Dickey (57)
    11. Zack Greinke (14)
    12. Matt Cain (64)
    13. Chris Sale (11)
    14. Gio Gonzalez (42)
    15. Jordan Zimmermann (10)
    16. Madison Bumgarner (9)
    17. James Shields (25)
    18. Roy Halladay (293)
    19. Josh Johnson (326)
    20. Yovani Gallardo (94)

    Missing: 2. Max Scherzer, 5. Yu Darvish (an accidental preseason omission that I put around Cliff Lee), 6. Hisashi Iwakuma, 7. Jose Fernandez, 8. Matt Harvey (RIP), 12. Anibal Sanchez, 15. Aroldis Chapman (qualified in preseason here), 16. Bartolo Colon, 17. Mike Minor, 19. Mat Latos, 20. Clay Buchholz.

    Analysis: There is simply a ton of good, young pitching. Harvey and Fernandez joining the elite doesn't even take into account Shelby Miller, Patrick Corbin, and Julio Teheran, who also made the top 25 as rookies (Harvey was barely over limit). Watch for Alex Cobb, who finished 35 in spite of a nasty hit to the head on a pitch and has made a tremendous return to the mound.

    Relief Pitchers
    1. Craig Kimbrel (1)
    1.5* Aroldis Chapman (8)
    2. Jason Motte (DNP)
    3. Jon Papelbon (27)
    4. JJ Putz (111)
    5. Mariano Rivera (7)
    6. Sergio Romo (11)
    7. Huston Street (25)
    8. Joel Hanrahan (352)
    9. John Axford (159)
    10. Brandon League (148)
    * If moved back to closer

    Missing: 2. Greg Holland, 3. Hisashi Iwakuma (qualified as RP), 4. Joe Nathan, 5. Koji Uehara, 6. Kenley Jansen, 9. Glen Perkins, 10. Jim Johnson

    Analysis: Other than Kimbrel and Chapman, you simply don't "pay for saves". Holland had a horrid start but a great finish and Jansen in a full season of saves is easily top 5 reliever material. Watch for Steve Cishek who had a great season finishing 12th on the player rater in spite of closing for a horrible organization.

    So there you go...my annual dose of humility. Fun to look back on!
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    Fantasy

    How did you leave Scherzer off? I took him in the 4th round of my draft (#43 overall)..right before Darvish. (Who also didn't crack your top 20?)

    *Edit, looks like you admitted that was a mistake..the Darvish part at least)

    And any league that rewards Wilin Rosario as the number 2 catcher while Santana finished 6th seems ridiculous to me.

    Rosario stats: 466 PA, 109k/15bb, 21 hr, 79 rbi, 105 OPS+
    Carlos Santana stats: 642 PA, 110k/93bb, 20 hr, 73 rbi, 137 OPS+

    In my league (points based), Rosario finished as the #10 overall catcher. I don't understand why more people don't play in leagues where the best players finish near the top of the rankings.

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    And yes people, don't pay for saves. The ******* who won my league had Holland, Balfour, and Chisek as his RP's...all late round selections.

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    Scherzer preseason was seen in that 15-30 group of starters. I had one friend say that he and Jeff Samardzija were the same pitcher, but Scherzer would get more wins on the Tigers than Samardzija would on the Cubs. Samardzija stayed that same pitcher, but Scherzer took a huge step forward in control and consistency, two things that had plagued him until 2013.
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    As far as Rosario vs. Santana, I took off of ESPN's player rater, which goes by traditional 5x5 stats, the most common variety of the fantasy game. In that format, Rosario got a big boost in BA, where he led Santana by .024.
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