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04-07-2013, 01:03 AM #23
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Do you believe that gay couples should not be able to get all of the same benefits as heterosexual couples? If not, then why?
My sense is that ultimately all the arguments against gay marriage have a religious/cultural basis. That's not new. The arguments in favor of slavery and against female voting were very similar. The Bible talks about putting men to death for homosexuality, and it also has passages supporting slavery and women not having equal rights.
Sadly, my experience has been that most people never sit down and actually read the Bible. My experience has been that there is a lot of value there, but also a lot that makes little sense, including the concept of putting people to death because they are homosexuals. Unless we want to trample on people's first amendment rights to be free from other people's religions, it seems to me that government policies should be based on religiously neutral principles.
04-07-2013, 04:54 AM #24
Good post Glunn. The unfortunate reality is that strong religious faith can come with negativity as well if not fully considered. I know there are many people of many faiths who refuse to allow any person or book to allow them down the path of prejudice. But the reality is there a very significant population who do allow themselves to have bigoted feelings in the name of religion. I've yet to meet someone who, when pressed, can oppose gay marriage on any coherent, factual arguments. Unfortunately that only leaves prejudice left.
04-07-2013, 08:29 AM #25
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04-07-2013, 12:11 PM #26
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It's also worth pointing out that not all religions oppose gay marriage. When I was doing legal work in PA, the local Quaker and Mennonite Churches recognized same sex marriages and it was the government that didn't recognize them.
04-07-2013, 01:09 PM #27
Frankly, I just don't understand those who claim what they do in the name of religious principle, then turn around and use that as a cover for nothing more than hate. For me, treating others as you would have them treat you is nothing more than a standard for equality. But for those who claim to be guided by religious principles, I guess the Golden Rule applies only to those who are what you think they should be and not who they are.
04-11-2013, 05:29 PM #28
This thread is full of outrageous claims and lies, we all know there are no girls on the internet.