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    One Stop Shop for the 2013 Draft.

    To make things more convenient, aka I'm lazy, I'm going to link all the Twins draft threads in one place.

    *College*
    Mark Appel
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...ark-appel.html

    Braden Shipley
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...ty-nevada.html

    Jonathan Gray
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...-jon-gray.html

    Sean Manaea
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...an-manaea.html

    Tom Windle
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...om-windle.html

    Chris Anderson
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...-anderson.html

    Ryan Stanek
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...ne-stanek.html

    Kris Bryant & Colin Moran
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...is-bryant.html

    Second round college arms
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...lege-arms.html

    College Relief Pitchers
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...tml#post105447

    *High School*
    Kohl Stewart
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...l-stewart.html

    Clint Frazier & Austin Meadows
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...n-meadows.html

    Second Round HS arms
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...s-hs-arms.html

    *Others*
    Jeremy's draft board V.3.0
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...-0-4-20-a.html

    Jeremy's draft board V.2.0
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...-0-3-13-a.html

    Jeremy's draft board V.1.0
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...-0-2-17-a.html

    Draft Pick Values
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...ck-values.html

    Draft Developments
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...elopments.html

    The Mocks
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...aft-mocks.html

    The Boards
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...tml#post109259

    Jeremy's Personal "Cheeseballs" (Hitters)
    http://twinsdaily.com/twins-minor-le...s-hitters.html

    I will try to update this as users add more content. If I missed anything let me know and I can link it. Hopefully this helps all the draft yuppies like me keep up with everything.
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    I had no exact place to put this but I thought it was interesting. Jim Callis answered this during his weekly Ask BA:

    With the NFL draft taking place last week, there was a lot of talk about “true first-rounders.” How many players in the MLB draft this year would you say are “true first-rounders”—guys who would be first-round picks in any year?

    "I’ll draw my line at 24 no-doubt first-rounders. But if I wanted to be slightly more liberal, I easily could find enough to cover all 33 actual first-round selections."

    Who did he name? Check out the article below. Even though it is a weak group there is still a ton of talent that has first round talent in any draft.

    Rest of the article is here:
    Ask BA: The 2013 Draft's "True First-Rounders" - BaseballAmerica.com

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    From BA's What to expect in the first round: AL.

    Twins

    Top 10-Rd. Picks: 4, 43, 78, 110, 140, 170, 200, 230, 260, 290
    Bonus Pool: $8,264,400
    Scouting Director: Deron Johnson (sixth year)
    Johnson’s First-Round History: Aaron Hicks (14th overall, 2008), Kyle Gibson(22nd overall, 2009), Alex Wimmers (21st overall, 2010), Levi Michael (30th overall, 2011) & Byron Buxton (second overall, 2012)
    Johnson’s Top 5-Round Breakdown: 33 picks (17 college pitchers, eight college position players, two high school pitchers & six high school position players)
    The industry belief is that the Twins want pitching. But we wrote that last year too, and the team picked high school outfielder Byron Buxton. If the consensus top two talents—righthanders Mark Appel from Stanford or Jonathan Gray from Oklahoma—don’t fall, the Twins could go with Indiana State’s Manaea or Nevada’s Shipley if they want a pitcher. San Diego’s Bryant could also be in the mix.
    But would you blame them if they decided to pair Buxton with another tooled-up Georgia high school outfielder like Clint Frazier or Austin Meadows? After all, the Twins’ Georgia scout, Jack Powell, has an impressive track record for finding big league talent. He is the signing scout for Tom Browning, Jose Bautista, Matt Moore, Matt Capps and Jeff Keppinger.

    Complete article and break downs of the other 14 AL teams below:
    What To Expect In The First Round: American League - BaseballAmerica.com

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    This thread = Jizzing in my pants.

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    Well done, cmb0252!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twins Twerp View Post
    This thread = Jizzing in my pants.
    Thanks for provoking more or less the negative of that response.

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    Haha, I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. Makes finding things so much easier AND gives a general place to put nonspecific draft updates.

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    Interesting mention of Powell. I remember when Smith took over, Ryan wanted to concentrate and improve our scouting in the SE, specifically GA. I think his first year being in charge of the SE was when we took Goodrum in the 2nd round. Did we bring Powell to the org just in the last few years?

    Edit: I looked it up, we brought Powell in around that time. Twins make changes in scouting department | twinsbaseball.com: Official Info

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    Interested on people's thoughts on the following:

    Assume Buxton was in the draft this year, and nothing of what he's done since he was drafted is taken into consideration (forget everything!), where is he taken? Where would he rank of the three Georgia HS OF that would then be in this draft (Buxton, Frazier, Meadows)

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    • Jim Callis is doing a minor league/ draft chat right now and answered a question I had about what the Rockies might do:

      Max (Minneapolis):
      Any idea what Rockies will do with the #3 overall pick in the draft?

    Jim Callis: I feel very confident saying that Stanford RHP Mark Appel and Oklahoma RHP Jonathan Gray will go 1-2 or 2-1 to the Astros and Cubs. Less confident guessing (and at this points, it's guessing) what the Rockies will do at 3. I had a scouting director tell me yesterday that he thinks one of both of the top HS bats (Clint Frazier, Austin Meadows) might drop to No. 10 or lower. The best college bats (Kris Bryant, Colin Moran) play 3B, not a position of great need for the Rockies (not that you draft for need at No. 3). I'm not sure I like any of the arms at No. 3. So just guessing here, I'll say Bryant, who may wind up in the outfield anyway.

    BaseballAmerica.com: Chat Draft

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    Where would he rank of the three Georgia HS OF that would then be in this draft (Buxton, Frazier, Meadows)
    Everything that I have read put Buxton in another tier from Meadows and Frazier.

    Interesting comment from Callis:
    I'm kind of interested who is going in the top 10 if one or both of Frazier and Meadows drop to #10 or lower. I think they still go in the top 10 unless teams start grabbing pitchers or something.

    locks
    Gray/Appel
    Bryant

    likelys
    Manaea
    Stewart
    Denney

    Possibles
    Moran
    Shipley

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd Inning Stretch View Post
    Interested on people's thoughts on the following:

    Assume Buxton was in the draft this year, and nothing of what he's done since he was drafted is taken into consideration (forget everything!), where is he taken? Where would he rank of the three Georgia HS OF that would then be in this draft (Buxton, Frazier, Meadows)
    Jim Callis answered this question last week about Buxton vs the 2013 draft.
    Who would you rather have: Buxton or the 2013 draft field?
    Jim Callis: Buxton

    Keith law has also stated he would rather have Buxton over anyone in the 2013 draft, including Appel and Gray who are considered the top two talents this year. Meadows and Frazier are great talents but Buxton is on another level compared to these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxisagod View Post
    • Jim Callis is doing a minor league/ draft chat right now and answered a question I had about what the Rockies might do:

      Max (Minneapolis):
      Any idea what Rockies will do with the #3 overall pick in the draft?

    Jim Callis: I feel very confident saying that Stanford RHP Mark Appel and Oklahoma RHP Jonathan Gray will go 1-2 or 2-1 to the Astros and Cubs. Less confident guessing (and at this points, it's guessing) what the Rockies will do at 3. I had a scouting director tell me yesterday that he thinks one of both of the top HS bats (Clint Frazier, Austin Meadows) might drop to No. 10 or lower. The best college bats (Kris Bryant, Colin Moran) play 3B, not a position of great need for the Rockies (not that you draft for need at No. 3). I'm not sure I like any of the arms at No. 3. So just guessing here, I'll say Bryant, who may wind up in the outfield anyway.

    BaseballAmerica.com: Chat Draft
    Haha, I was going to post that answer here but you beat me to it! Great question. Here are two others I found interesting:

    If 1-3 are Appel, Gray, Manaea, what do the Twins do? Can't take Bryant since he'd be sent to high A where Sano is playing third. I'm not sure they'd want to take another OF but I don't know if the 4th best pitcher is a better option.
    Jim Callis: Don’t think Manaea goes No. 3 right now. But if that did happen, I might take Kohl Stewart at No. 4.

    What do you see the Twins doing at 4? College Pitcher, or simply the best player available?
    Jim Callis: I think they’ll go pitcher, which might be the best player available as well.

    Also, Christopher Crawford has a draft chat today at 3 at his website mlbdraftinsider.com. I will try and get those questions/answers up on the appropriate threads once the chat is done.
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    Right now I think the Twins will take either Shipley or Manaea but it'll be interesting to see how the 3-8 prospects start shaking themselves out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunnarthor View Post
    Right now I think the Twins will take either Shipley or Manaea but it'll be interesting to see how the 3-8 prospects start shaking themselves out.
    I am going to have to disagree and say Bryant or Stewart. I know the Twins brass doesn't take high school pitchers, but they have broken from their "old ways" the last few years. I think Bryant is going to be an exceptional hitter. Think Prince Fielder behind Miguel Cabrera (Bryant Behind Sano).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twins Twerp View Post
    I am going to have to disagree and say Bryant or Stewart. I know the Twins brass doesn't take high school pitchers, but they have broken from their "old ways" the last few years. I think Bryant is going to be an exceptional hitter. Think Prince Fielder behind Miguel Cabrera (Bryant Behind Sano).
    I like your thinking and wouldn't be opposed to either, BUT ...

    If they take Bryant, he'd head to A+ where we already have Sano working at third so one of them would be moved to RF. Bryant might not be worth the #4 pick if he's a RFer. I know you don't draft for need at #4 but I think that would be a tie breaker point against Bryant. Unless they really love that bat, I don't see it happening (and I love Bryant. I would actually be very happy to see us have him).

    I could see the Twins taking Stewart - they took Berrios last year - but I think they'd want more of a sure thing at #4 than a HS arm.

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    From Christopher Crawford's chat today regarding the Twins at 4:
    Comment From Kyle
    With the lack of top tier pitching prospects in the organization should the Twins only consider a pitcher at #4 or should they go BPA?


    3:02 Always, always go BPA. That being said, I've heard more pitchers connected to them, though I know they like Kris Bryant a lot, too.


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    Totally agree with you. The number 3 and 4 picks are kind of conundrums. This draft has two great college arms and everybody else. On his podcast a few weeks ago, Law and a guy from Fox Sports talked about tiers. The first tier had Gray and Appel, the second tier is very fluid. I realized after I posted the Bryant vs. Stewart post that Jeremy literally posted the same thing yesterday in another thread. I know I didn't read it so I am going to go ahead and pat myself on the back for having an opinion that one of the great draft analyzers has. (Or I did read it and plagiarized his take)

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    Not taking Bryant because you don't have a place to play him in the minors is beyond stupid. Maybe you don't think he is a good pick at #4 but at least come up with a good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab21 View Post
    Not taking Bryant because you don't have a place to play him in the minors is beyond stupid. Maybe you don't think he is a good pick at #4 but at least come up with a good reason.
    That seemed overly dickish.

    Bryant's value as #4 pick is partially dependent on him playing third. If the Twins move him to RF, I'm not sure he's worth the pick (maybe his bat is worth it, his RH bat at TF could be very exciting). I think the Twins will consider that when they are considering the group of players in the tier that they are picking and I suspect that none of the players they are considering will have separated themselves so much that it wouldn't be an issue, thus I think they'll go with a pitcher over Bryant. Not so sure why you got your panties in a wad over that.

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