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    I wonder if the Yankees regret that huge FA contract they gave an aging starter like Sabathia. He's only given them 1000 innings of 3-something ERA over the last 4.5 seasons. Proof positive investing in top end FA starting pitching is doomed to failure in a year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I wonder if the Yankees regret that huge FA contract they gave an aging starter like Sabathia. He's only given them 1000 innings of 3-something ERA over the last 4.5 seasons. Proof positive investing in top end FA starting pitching is doomed to failure in a year or two.
    You could find examples of it not working out as well. It's a crap shoot. You shouldn't judge all long term contracts by one other contract, good or bad.
    You can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.

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    Well that was uncomfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    I wonder if the Yankees regret that huge FA contract they gave an aging starter like Sabathia. He's only given them 1000 innings of 3-something ERA over the last 4.5 seasons. Proof positive investing in top end FA starting pitching is doomed to failure in a year or two.
    Come on Chief. Look at all the 100M+ contracts given out to pitchers over the last 5-10 years and I would be willing to bet that there is more regret than value. Not saying the Twins shouldn't try to identify a top-tier guy to go after, but it has to be done intelligently and is heavy with risk regardless.

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    Vernon Wells, "outfielder."
    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
    - Strib commenter educating the elitists on the value of RBI's

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    Twins baseball.

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    Oh Yeah. Hicksie

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    That a boy Hicksie!!!
    You can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.

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    Atta kid, Hicksie.

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    It's nice being on the other side of the "blow routine plays give up huge bomb" coin.
    "Maybe you could go grab a bat and ball… and learn something. Maybe you will get it."
    - Strib commenter educating the elitists on the value of RBI's

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCTF View Post
    Fact : you can only contain Zoilo Almonte for just so long.
    Didn't Chief just caution someone else about bringing facts into a game thread?

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    Did not think we'd have a 5 spot on CC by the 3rd inning. This feels good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe A. Preusser View Post
    Come on Chief. Look at all the 100M+ contracts given out to pitchers over the last 5-10 years and I would be willing to bet that there is more regret than value. Not saying the Twins shouldn't try to identify a top-tier guy to go after, but it has to be done intelligently and is heavy with risk regardless.
    The only "risk" is to the bottom line. There is no other "risk."

    Either he pitches well, and stays in your rotation, or he doesn't, and you're right back where you were if you never signed him, with a smaller profit margin. The "risk" was no different this year than it will be this coming offseason, or any offseason in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAFChief View Post
    Ha! Gibson pulled the ol' "get to a 3-2 count so the runner is off with the pitch and force the hitter into lacing a rocket to the RF'er for a DP" trick.

    Stupid Yankees fell for it.
    Kind of bush league for the Twins to even try it. Expect retribution when Gibson comes up to bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    Didn't Chief just caution someone else about bringing facts into a game thread?
    Facts have no place in a game thread.
    You can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    You could find examples of it not working out as well. It's a crap shoot. You shouldn't judge all long term contracts by one other contract, good or bad.
    Mild trolling in a game thread is condoned, when done deftly (Chief seems to always get a pass on those grounds). Falling for the troll... that earns you an eye-roll smiley face when Brock implements one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    It's nice being on the other side of the "blow routine plays give up huge bomb" coin.
    I'm looking at you, snepp.

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    Nice time to tune into the game - right as Hicks hits a home run!

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    Following Hicksie's home run, Gladden was talking about Hicks and referencing him having a chance at being rookie of the year.

    It would be a pretty sad rookie class if the ROY had a hard time getting his BA above the Mendoza line. I know Hicks is doing a lot better lately, but I think he'd really have to step it up to win that.
    You can come up with statistics to prove anything. Forty percent of all people know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snepp View Post
    Vernon Wells, "outfielder."
    One of my least favorite players of the past decade, through no fault of his own really. A lumbering center fielder, back in the day, just made me go "ugh".

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