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    Not defending anybody's actions here. Part of the maturation process is learning to shut up and just say "Yes, sir". You don't have to believe a single word of it, but realize you are not going to get anywhere fighting it either.

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    ...Maybe it's my natural skepticism or even cynicism but how did we find out that Sano essentially told Smith he would "do what he wanted when he hits a HR"? From the Twins' organization? I suspect, given Smith's "prickliness", the truth may have been something different...Smith probably wanted Sano to back down and kiss his ring and when he didn't, he went running to Ryan...I watched the video and, even though we did not see much of the time he stood before starting his trot, there is no way it was a full "5 seconds"...Agree with the one posting pointing out how "Minnesota Nice" and, essentially, 'milquetoast' the current team is and how bereft of any real fire it has been...if this organization thinks it is going to somehow berate these young Latino studs into being "nice" and playing some nonsensical "Twins way", they're going to f- it up again, just like they did with Garza, as a matter of fact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NealcpLA View Post
    ...Maybe it's my natural skepticism or even cynicism but how did we find out that Sano essentially told Smith he would "do what he wanted when he hits a HR"? From the Twins' organization?
    Hearsay, courtesy of Reusse. Its a fair question. For all we know, Sano did say "yes, sir" and got suspended anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willihammer View Post
    Hearsay, courtesy of Reusse. Its a fair question. For all we know, Sano did say "yes, sir" and got suspended anyway.
    HIGHLY DOUBTFUL. Why suspend the #3 prospect in baseball, when he is just starting to find his groove in AA? The pimpingof the homer deserved at most a 2 game suspension, if he was contrite, likely just the next day. No way that Sano dropped a "Yes, Sir" and was suspended 4 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whosafraidofluigirussolo View Post
    .... but I've seen that pattern in sports-fan chatter before - the narratives that go around about "enigmatic" or "emotional" personalities in baseball usually aren't connected to white guys.
    Perhaps you are too young to remember, so I'll tell you a little story.

    Prior to the 1987 season the Twins picked up a guy named Dan Gladden. His career stats are underwhelming. He was, however, a man on a mission.
    Emotion? He had it.
    Swagger? He had it.

    And he was an important component to two World Series Championship teams.

    Other than punching his teammate, he was not considered disrespectful or a trouble maker. He just played with a lot of passion.

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    Joe Mauer and dominate should never be used in the same sentence.

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    It is true that the Twins need more Latin coaches across the board (including the majors). Much ado about nothing, here, though. It's good to have players who think they are good in this organization. It's good to have players who want to murder the baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seth Stohs View Post
    well done, Nick... I am glad that you pointed out that this 4-game benching is not so much for pimping the home run, or showing up the other team. That has happened before. It's happened frequently. Players typically get one game off for doing that, and rightfully so. The reason this one is four games and not one or two is because of the way he talked to his manager... That would not be accepted by any organization in baseball. It just wouldn't.

    If you've seen the video, you'll notice that the 1B coach doesn't even congratulate him... and the bench is very still, quiet. They were still down by a run. With Terry Ryan and Paul Molitor and Joel Lepel there, they couldn't let it go, and they shouldn't have. If they let Sano act like that and talk back and such, you lose the whole team.

    Listen, by many reports, Jeff Smith is not liked at all as a coach. He may be gone at the end of the year anyway for all we know, but I guarantee it will not be because of the way he handled this situation.

    Sano is a good kid, but he's just that, a kid. I like his confidence and his immense talent, and I like when players show their enthusiasm, but there is a fine line and Sano very clearly crossed it.

    The key is, now that he's back and playing, that it's just completely forgotten.

    How about hiring Ozzie Guillen as Manager when Gardy gets let go! He has a fiery personality that the twins need and can talk directly with the Latin players and things don't get lost in translation!

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    Well done by Terry Ryan. He's already setting up his excuses for not resigning one of the best power hitters in baseball on the basis of "clubhouse issues" Good for the Pohlads!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pbannu View Post
    How about hiring Ozzie Guillen as Manager when Gardy gets let go! He has a fiery personality that the twins need and can talk directly with the Latin players and things don't get lost in translation!
    IF the Pohlads and Terry Ryan can't get over their love-fest with Ron Gardenhire, then I think Guillen makes perfect sense as a bench coach, if he's willing to accept the position. Tactically, I think Gardy is the better manager than Ozzie, but Ozzie brings the intangibles that Gardy can't match, including a cultural bridge. Our view, through the media, is that Guillen has long taken a shine to Gardy and the Twins way.

    The whole "gist" of the Reusse article is that the Twins management can benefit by bridging the potential cultural gap between their present management and their emerging talent base.

    Given the dust-ups in the minors, that just makes a whole lot of sense. Pbannu's suggestion (one I blogged about months ago) would be a visible commitment to building that bridge.

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    No freaking way do you hire Ozzie Guillen as manager. The guy's a walking timebomb and no way do you want him influencing any of the Latin players. ... Now then, as much as the Twins need guys like Sano, Arcia, Rosario in the lineup in the future, I would much prefer guys like Jack Morris or Puckett or even Dan Gladden who had that internal fire and tough as nails determination to win. You never saw Morris-Puck-Gladden pimping their ride on the field. They were all business and ready to rumble. Sano, Arcia, Rosario need to understand that aspect of the game.

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