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    Quote Originally Posted by powrwrap View Post
    My ideal candidate would be:

    1. Someone, anyone, that has never played for, coached for, or scouted for the Twins or their minor league teams. In other words, someone that has NEVER been attached to this organization.

    2. Someone not named Ozzie Guillen.

    3. Someone not named Bobby Valentine.

    4. Someone not named Jim Leyland.
    I fit those criteria...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeviathan View Post
    Molly is still my vote. I just want to see some damn aggressiveness on the basepaths.
    Where is there any word that he has at all been considered for any managerial job, much less a major league one.

    I just don't get the fascination with Molitor-as-manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    Where is there any word that he has at all been considered for any managerial job, much less a major league one.

    I just don't get the fascination with Molitor-as-manager.
    None, but he's had close ties to the organization and has a good profile to be a successful manager.

    Let's be honest, the Twins are not going to hire outside the organization. It just isn't how they do things.

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    I could see Gene Glynn becoming the new manager of the Twins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    Where is there any word that he has at all been considered for any managerial job, much less a major league one.

    I just don't get the fascination with Molitor-as-manager.
    I do agree, if anybody it will probably be Steiny (yawn), but...

    Let's flip this around -- on this thread and other threads, what's your animus towards Molitor?

    Back in the day, I pulled for Molitor over Gardenhire. But Gardy won me over (until about 08 or 09). Looking back I'd say Molitor could have done at least as well as Gardy and not been as intimidated by the absolutely mediocre Yankees every single season. The experience angle is overrated and won't swing many people considering Molitor's knowledge of the game etc.

    And for the record, I'm not necessarily in Molitor's corner anymore. I'd definitely take him over Gardenhire though.

    But again, why get so animated when someone mentions him?

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    How can you have a "complete" review of prospective Twins managers without discussin Steinbach. He's probably the MOST obvious choice! Come on...

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    First of all a pitching coach becoming the manager scares me - I keep having nightmares of Ray "the Rabbit" Miller. Secondly, whether or not Gardy is brought back, Andy needs to go. Time to give Bobby Cuellar a chance. If Steinbach is elevated to manager, we need to purge Vavra and Ullger. That would leave four coach openings - bench, first, third and bullpen (assuming Bruno stays as hitting coach). I could see elevating Glynn and Mientkiewicz or Mauer. If you elevate Dougie, give Tommy Watkins a chance to manage the Miracle. I'd like to see the two remaining spots with guys from outside the organization - and preferably Hispanic. The bullpen might be a place for Pudge Rodriguez since he has no official coaching background. My preference would be an hispanic outsider for bench coach. Options could include Ozzie, Tony Pena (should he become available), Felix Fermin, Juan Samuel, or Andres Galaraga.

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    It appears that Gardy's extension is already a done deal. Ryan is referring directly to Gardy's role on the 2014 squad already in interviews:

    Minnesota Twins have plenty of 'issues' in 91st loss - TwinCities.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastOnePicked View Post
    It appears that Gardy's extension is already a done deal. Ryan is referring directly to Gardy's role on the 2014 squad already in interviews:

    Minnesota Twins have plenty of 'issues' in 91st loss - TwinCities.com
    Seems like you are correct:

    'Ryan said he needs to do his job and acquire some starters for next season so Duensing and Swarzak can stay in the bullpen.


    "I would like to think I'm going to be able to get Gardy some people here," Ryan said before the game. '
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    Interesting quote from Ryan. Wonder if that was an accidental slip or an intentional one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    I believe he is managing the Mets GCL team now.

    I just pulled his name out of any number of capable guys for a few reasons: he has played all over the world (esp. if the Twins go into that Asian market again . . . . . ), played baseball forever, and is severely disciplined about taking care of his body--I think there is added value in having a coach around like that.

    We are taking about baseball here Shane... taking care of your body to a large extent is by no means a part of this sport. Any baseball player would agree to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LastOnePicked View Post
    It appears that Gardy's extension is already a done deal. Ryan is referring directly to Gardy's role on the 2014 squad already in interviews:

    Minnesota Twins have plenty of 'issues' in 91st loss - TwinCities.com
    I think that Ryan should not assume that he himself will be returning next season, despite what Pohlad said. Three seasons ago this time, BS "had the total confidence" of the Pohlads...

    We shall see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePuck View Post
    "I would like to think I'm going to be able to get Gardy some people here," Ryan said before the game. '
    This statement is unbearably depressing. Third straight 90+ loss season, roster full of AAA players, and he'd "like to think" he'll be able to get us some upgrades? If the Pohlad's are the least bit serious about putting a respectable team on the field, I can't imagine they're happy about a lot of these quotes TR has had recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    I think that Ryan should not assume that he himself will be returning next season, despite what Pohlad said. Three seasons ago this time, BS "had the total confidence" of the Pohlads...

    We shall see.
    Terry Ryan is not Bill Smith. He keeps things cheap for the Pohlads and has helped make a bright future for this team. The people to point fingers at? The cheap, aforementioned owners of this team. Gardenhire and Ryan are not the problem here, 6 division championships in 9 years proves that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S. View Post
    This statement is unbearably depressing. Third straight 90+ loss season, roster full of AAA players, and he'd "like to think" he'll be able to get us some upgrades? If the Pohlad's are the least bit serious about putting a respectable team on the field, I can't imagine they're happy about a lot of these quotes TR has had recently.
    Might run into the problem he did last offseason...just can't give away the team's money :-)
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    I'm hoping he runs into the same problem Bill Smith had after the 2011 season...where he didnt have a GM job anymore.

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    "Gardenhire and Ryan are not the problem here, 6 division championships in 9 years proves that."

    Living in the past is fine when the present and near future are this bad.
    Haven't won a playoff series since 2002, 0-12 playoff record going not sure that's a lot to hang your hat on at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    "Gardenhire and Ryan are not the problem here, 6 division championships in 9 years proves that."

    Living in the past is fine when the present and near future are this bad.
    Haven't won a playoff series since 2002, 0-12 playoff record going not sure that's a lot to hang your hat on at this point.
    And blaming Smith for all the issues, while giving credit for two division championships to Ryan while Smith was GM, seems odd too.
    Just remember: You put the lime IN the coconut. Only THEN, can you drink it all up.

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    So he's now semi-officially the only non-expansion manager besides TK in the past thirty years to return for another year after three consecutive 90 loss seasons.

    Put another way, since Gardenhire, to put it hyper-politely, lacks TK's postseason success, the front office is admitting something approximating this:

    It took what was a contending core at the end of the past decade, and added tens of millions to the available payroll budget with new stadium revenue.

    With those resources, they built a major league roster so dreadfully bad that the last manager to get a free pass for so many losses was managing a historically awful expansion franchise.

    That's Ryan's admission with the resigning of Gardenhire. The Twins' MLB talent level the past three seasons has stood at the level of a really, really bad expansion team.

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