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    This guy has come out AGAINST the Twins and Twins players. And there are some who want him back??? This is totally insane. Torii hates this organization and the "clubhouse" aspect is always overrated garbage. Again, he hates the Twins. Coming back here? No. For good reasons from the Twins.

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    Senior Member All-Star Shane Wahl's Avatar
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    Also, why is any old veteran on the horizon at all?

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    Agree that there's no chance he's coming back, as both Torii and the Twins were ready to part ways after 2007. Disagree with your clubhouse comment - we need one or two of our younger outgoing guys to fill the leadership vacuum next year. Torii was one of those guys when he was here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shane Wahl View Post
    This guy has come out AGAINST the Twins and Twins players. And there are some who want him back??? This is totally insane. Torii hates this organization and the "clubhouse" aspect is always overrated garbage. Again, he hates the Twins. Coming back here? No. For good reasons from the Twins.
    The clubhouse aspect might be overrated, but I believe it is immensely important to have a fiery leader on a ballclub. A individual that can lift up the spirits of his fellow teammates, make some promises he cannot keep, but sometimes does performance wise, and if not shrug it off.

    I have to face the truths that are in my face. The present day Twins are super vanilla and I do not see a player who can uplift a team when it is in a gutter. I have seen a little passion from Deduno and Arcia, but for the most part this team seems soulless. I am a Joe Mauer fan, but this is not a role will ever suit him. Sure, you can have the most talented team and win a World Championship without a pure leader, but the Twins will never have the most talented team in MLB... they need a leading player and a driving force.

    I do not want Hunter to play for the Twins again, but I do recognize what he brings to the table of passion and leadership.

    I hope the Twins can find a guy to fit this role.
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    I appreciated his passion and his relentlessness during games. But as awesome as that Torri could be on the field, he was even more spectacularly despicable off it. The guy was a loudmouth faux-leader. I'd like an actual leader - one with a sense of accountability and less hypocrisy. So pass for me on this one.

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    Torii missed games after crashing into walls - who on this team would crash into a wall to make a play? This team has packed it in 3 September's in a row and their club house leadership has not shown a lot of heart to get out and play. I doubt Hunter would consider coming back, why sign with a team that is going to lose 90 games?

    But the Twins need some players who will run through a wall, or call out teammates if they are not giving 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JB_Iowa View Post
    I am exactly the opposite. I go on rooting for AL Central teams to win (including the White Sox) and I often end up rooting for an AL team to win the series (except for the Yankees or the Rangers). This year, though, I'm rooting for the Pirates but if the Pirates and Tigers would somehow end up in the Series, I'd consider that win-win.
    Me, too, I guess because I relate to people here in NYC who root for these out-of-town teams. I pull for Cleveland, Detroit, and the White Sox (but have no feeling at all for KC) when the Twins are out of it. The last four-game series against Cleveland was painful, but, on some level, I did want the Indians to get in. The Pirates have always been my favorite NL team, so it is a sad day.
    Last edited by Longdistancetwins; 10-10-2013 at 05:04 PM.

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    Torii is well-liked and respected. He plays hard between the lines and does what he can to win games and titles. Torii has never gotten in trouble so I would cut him some slack. Hunter likes to hear himself talk and does put his foot in his mouth pretty often.

    On balance, I'll take what Hunter has to offer and discount or ignore some of his nonsense off the field. In many respects, he is a better player now than he ever was with the Twins.

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    For the whole "fiery clubhouse leader" bit to have a positive impact, the rest of the team needs to know that guy has their back. Torii would sell out any player on the team for a soundbite on KFAN. From a talent standpoint, he'd be a decent addition to the team (at the right price) because he can still hit and play decent defense in one of the corners. But I doubt he'll come at a good price and I can't see him as a good mentor for young players.

    I'd rather guys like Hicks & Arcia not get the idea that trying to make the spectacular play over the smart play is a good idea (yes, I remember him diving for those balls in the playoffs too and screwing the team)

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