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    Quote Originally Posted by spycake View Post
    If the Twins trade prospects for pitching but stay ~$30 million under budget (no quality free agents signed), I am going to be MASSIVELY disappointed. As good as our top prospects are, this team and organization are not that rich in talent yet -- we can't really afford to be swapping out talent, we need to ADD it.
    Agree completely, they should be building around that core not subtracting from it.

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    The Twins really need to go out and bring in a talented player through free agency. We have seen so many players leave, I think it would be good for morale to go out and sign a 30-50 million starter. The money is there and there is so much pent up demand from the fan base to see it, that just needs to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spycake View Post
    If the Twins trade prospects for pitching but stay ~$30 million under budget (no quality free agents signed), I am going to be MASSIVELY disappointed. As good as our top prospects are, this team and organization are not that rich in talent yet -- we can't really afford to be swapping out talent, we need to ADD it.
    You can't be higher than #1. Ryan will do what it takes. The trade market has got be 5-10 times the size of free agency. Why would you tie his hands behind his back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spycake View Post
    If the Twins trade prospects for pitching but stay ~$30 million under budget (no quality free agents signed), I am going to be MASSIVELY disappointed. As good as our top prospects are, this team and organization are not that rich in talent yet -- we can't really afford to be swapping out talent, we need to ADD it.
    I would like to see the team 15M or so under budget. Next year's FA class looks much better and we will be a year closer to contention. Take the dolars from expiring contracts + 15M and we have room to go after a front of the rotation starter without the question marks in this year's FAs. A long term deal makes more sense with several of the SPs that should be available next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Leauge Ready View Post
    I would like to see the team 15M or so under budget. Next year's FA class looks much better and we will be a year closer to contention. Take the dolars from expiring contracts + 15M and we have room to go after a front of the rotation starter without the question marks in this year's FAs. A long term deal makes more sense with several of the SPs that should be available next year.
    Spending 40 to 50 this off season allows for this plus some. Also, some of that 40 to 50 could be under one year contracts creating even more flexibility. To me it is really exciting that there is this much room for FA spending and I will be as disappointed as being swept by the Yankees in the playoffs if the Twins do not break the Willingham record FA contract and hopefully they do it twice!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    You got to add Levi Michael into the equation some place too.
    Why? What has he done to be factored in?
    He has already been passed by Santana, and he did nothing to deserve a promotion. His play shows he deserves to be sent down to CR next year.
    He should not block anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by howieramone View Post
    You can't be higher than #1. Ryan will do what it takes. The trade market has got be 5-10 times the size of free agency. Why would you tie his hands behind his back?
    Trade market is bigger by definition, but trades are more infrequent because they are more costly in terms of talent. (Actually, most trades are probably salary dumps anyway -- I wouldn't mind the Twins taking on one of those, like Ervin Santana last year.)

    Twins farm system might be #1, but the MLB club is a lot closer to #30 in talent. There's a big difference between the St Louis Cardinals trading some prospects when they have a strong MLB roster, and the Twins trading some prospects before they have much of anything at the MLB level (or even high minors).

    Of course I wouldn't tie TR's hands about anything -- if he detects another team is over-valuing a guy like Rosario, Arcia, etc. and can turn that into another Meyer, more power to him. But those kind of deals are incredibly rare, and the Twins still need at least 2 MLB-ready arms for the upcoming season, preferably quality ones.

    We still need more quality players at ALL positions, including those we would have to deal from, more than we need ~$30 million payroll "wiggle room".

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    Won't be trading Rosario now.

    And it would be stupid to make such a trade anyway. Not when you can just buy them.

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    I wonder if the Rangers would give up some pitching for Arcia? He's still not a complete player yet and the Rangers are in win-now mode but he's not that far off and his bat in Texas' park could be pretty exciting for them.

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