11-20-2013, 01:55 PM #41
I am pretty confident that Josh Johnson was not signing with the Twins -- he's very obviously trying to build his value for a big payday next winter. How much he earns in 2014 is of relatively little consequence to him.
That said, the $10 million comment by the Twins was a little disappointing. I mean, that's the shortest term deal possible, at clearly a market rate. A team in the Twins situation should be overjoyed if they could snag him for that.
11-20-2013, 03:00 PM #42
11-20-2013, 03:12 PM #43
Johnson signed for slightly less, but basically picked his league and city first, then signed well before winter meetings. Suggests he gave a discount there.
I will have to go back and look at the quote. The idea that $10m was just beyond the pale for Johnson does not give me a lot of hope for us in free agency....
11-20-2013, 03:58 PM #44
I am the biggest JJ supporter on this board, but frankly the Twins were never a good fit for him, nor was he a good fit for the Twins on a ONE year deal. If we could have got him for 2-3 years, then yeah I would be more upset.
11-20-2013, 05:28 PM #45
Best case, he also nets them deadline prospects, a comp pick, or maybe a slight discount on a long term deal.
The Twins didn't have a shot at this particular player, but let's not pretend that he wouldn't have been a great acquisition. The Twins might be lucky to get one pitcher this offseason with the potential performance/payout of Johnson.
11-20-2013, 08:44 PM #46
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11-21-2013, 08:28 AM #48
I think most any GM in the game, with $30+ million to spend and 3 wide-open rotation spots, wouldn't mind a $10 million, one-year gamble on a 30 year old pitcher with legit ace upside who can pass a physical. Even if you never trust that pitcher's health enough to offer him another cent, that's a reasonable price for a potential deadline asset or extra comp pick.
11-21-2013, 08:42 AM #49
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11-21-2013, 09:06 AM #50
Plus, if his next contract will likely top out at 3 years, that would be even more incentive for a team to sign him for one year now. Potentially getting a head start or small discount on negotiating a less-risky 3 year extension is more valuable than getting the same for a more-risky 4-5 year extension, no?