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    Twins to sign Hughes

    According to LEN, 3 years $24 million

    Also said working on bringing AJ back into the mix

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    I guess Terry Ryan isn't messing around this off season.

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    What the heck is Terry going to do at the Winter Meetings?

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    http://www.startribune.com/sports/twins/233955521.html
    I guess Nick's assertion of aggressiveness was spot on. I'm thrilled to see this!

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    Pelfrey's gonna regret not taking that deal. Its probably off the table now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKGuy View Post
    What the heck is Terry going to do at the Winter Meetings?
    Hopefully sign more top-end free agents and make some good trades

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    A dreaded "innings eater" (that has trouble getting innings in before he is pulled) that pitched horribly the second half of last season, and gives up tons of home runs. Worse than league average. Don't we already have about 5 or 6 of those already?

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    I'm interested to know what people's expectations are for Mr. Hughes. Do people think he's going to average a 3.50 ERA? 4.00? 4.50? How many innings do people think he'll put up per year? Many people have talked about his "upside" and I'm curious to know what that means to people.

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    Yankee Stadium is a jet-stream into right field and right center, and Hughes has given up his share of cheapies out that way. Still, for a guy with good velocity and a decent curve, he gives up hits and walks people at the worst times. NY media market is tough and maybe he rediscovers himself in the pastures of the Midwest. Worst case, he can work in the bullpen and give a max effort for 1 inning, becoming a set-up man.

    Still a lot of dough, but last year Ryan let the market develop and by the time it did, all we could get is Coreia. This year, Ryan made the market, and whether you like the signings or not, it will be tough to argue that the Twins overpaid.

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    These acquisitions are legitimate ML starters instead of running AAAA guys out there. An ERA of around 4 would be a legitimate upgrade.

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    I never thought that much of Hughes. However, the Twins can't be overly choosy until this team gets retooled into a winner. The alternatives (those we watched the last two years) are unacceptable and new talent must be acquired. I would rather see Pinto as the #1 C instead of a free agent. Whatever he does at AAA is meaningless anyway--see Parmelee.

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    I thought Kazmir's handedness and (probably) one year commitment would have been a better move, but its hard not to be excited. I think it's important for the Twins to shore up the outfield defense now. They have no pitcher who can really claim to be a 'ground-ball-type' pitcher trotting out there. Nobody want Colabello/Parmalee/Willingham/Arcia combined with a decent decent CF shagging all the fly balls

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    Article: Twins To Sign Phil Hughes


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxtung View Post
    I'm interested to know what people's expectations are for Mr. Hughes. Do people think he's going to average a 3.50 ERA? 4.00? 4.50? How many innings do people think he'll put up per year? Many people have talked about his "upside" and I'm curious to know what that means to people.
    Something similar to but a bit better than his 2012 season - ERA+ 105 or so, 190+ innings or so, roughly 2+ WAR. I think he'll do well here.

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    Good news. Surprised by the three years though...thought for sure it would be a 1 or 2 year deal.

    Safe to assume that TR is done signing starters.

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    The Hughes signing, along with the Nolasco, makes Ryan look mighty aggressive. Guess all that needed to happen was for Ryan to win Reusse's Turkey of the Year award.

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    I love it! At that price, he'd be worth it even if he ended up a reliever!

    Sure he could flame out, but given his history and his unfriendly home park, he's also got some serious upside -- and for a total investment less than one third the cost of Nolasco. This is the type of gamble they need to take, and it doesn't even use up their remaining budget. If he finally reaches anything near his potential, this is a steal. If he never pitches below a 5 ERA, it won't kill them. Plus his worst case scenario isn't even that bad, as he has experience as an effective reliever. I'm thrilled. Maybe that's just knee-jerk amazement that they signed two pitchers in three days, but hey, how often have we ever ever heard that sentence?

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    The extra year may be what brought him to the Twins. He is young enough that the third year won't matter. In fact 8 million in 2016 won't buy 1 WAR.

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    Pelfrey's still got a chance and wouldn't surprise me. LOL, I can't help but wonder what a bunch of our other pitchers are thinking right now. A few probably hoping to be traded.

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    Dang, I'm not in love with either Nolasco or Hughes but I like the signings. Until other pitchers sign we really won't be able to fully judge these signings. If they could have gotten Garza and Kazmir for similar money I don't know, I'll be a bit disappointed but not devastated. We've talked ad nauseum about Hughes potential in Target Field and just a change of scenery in general. These guys together take up only 20 million per year for the next 3. Assuming we're done with starters from this point and will likely only sign short term deals on any position players I like how this sets us up for future FA spending if needed.

    Next year a lot of big names could be hitting FA including Scherzer, Homer Bailey, Kershaw (gonna re up though, Shields, Masterson, and Lester. Not to mention some guys with options like Gallardo, Morrow, Brett Anderson, Cueto, and Bllingsley all having options next year. Could be some nice names to spend on next year. If the twins show enough improvement and some of the young prospects start to pan out, Minnesota could suddenly become a nice destination.

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