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    Quote Originally Posted by Doomtints View Post
    If memory serves, both Hrbek and Puckett took smaller-dollar contracts to stay with the Twins.

    Puckett was the highest paid player in baseball for about a week (89?), but even by the standards of that era he was a great deal at about $3 million per. The big salary explosion started pretty soon after that and within about a year his salary wasn't even in the top 40. When he re-signed four years later his salary moved up to around 9th -- and Hrbek was around 90th.
    True, they did take less to stay with us. So did Joe Mauer, could have had more to sign with the Yankees, but didn't.

    Puckett was the highest paid player at one time, which is still the highest paid player, no matter if teams did or did not follow suit, is another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Jack Morris was not the highest paid player in 1991. He was not even the highest paid pitcher in 1991. He was the highest paid AL pitcher.

    That said, comparing the MacPhail Twins of 2 World Championships to the Ryan Twins of misery followed by almost good enough to misery, and the methods of the 2 GMs, does not make much sense.
    According to BR, Morris was the highest paid pitcher in 1991.

    Salary s c a p y
    1. Strawberry (LAD) $3,800,000
    2. Carter (TOR) $3,791,667
    3. Mitchell (SFG) $3,750,000
    Clark (SFG) $3,750,000
    5. Morris (MIN) $3,700,000
    6. Davis (KCR) $3,625,000
    7. Davis (CIN) $3,600,000
    8. McGee (SFG) $3,562,500
    9. Langston (CAL) $3,550,000
    10. Raines (CHW) $3,500,000
    Canseco (OAK) $3,500,000

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrylos View Post
    Jack Morris was not the highest paid player in 1991. He was not even the highest paid pitcher in 1991. He was the highest paid AL pitcher.

    That said, comparing the MacPhail Twins of 2 World Championships to the Ryan Twins of misery followed by almost good enough to misery, and the methods of the 2 GMs, does not make much sense.
    Who's the 5 most successful GMs since 1980 when you consider, trades (good and bad), MLB draft (Rule 4 and Rule 5), W-L record, and playoff appearances where teams are actually a byproduct of that GM. e.g. Beane's first 3 years as GM (Giambi, Tejada, etc majority of team WAR are not his players) don't count towards that success, come from the previous GM...want to take a stab in the dark?

    Everyone has their own rating system, so margin for error of course. But definitely some objective metrics that clearly can't be denied.

    Trades are decided by WAR gained versus lost. Carlos Gonzalez and Matt Holiday are killing Beane in this dept as they continue to provide lost value on his Michael Taylor return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twinsfan34 View Post
    Who's the 5 most successful GMs since 1980 when you consider, trades (good and bad), MLB draft (Rule 4 and Rule 5), W-L record, and playoff appearances where teams are actually a byproduct of that GM.
    Cap Huston. The purchase of Babe Ruth, FTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashburyjohn View Post
    Cap Huston. The purchase of Babe Ruth, FTW.
    I heard that one worked out really well, or something like that
    Bring a song and a smile for the banjo,
    Better get while the gettin's good
    Catch a ride to the end of the highway
    Where the neons turn to wood

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